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Are we all just going to pretend that freebasing ranch dressing straight from the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but bottle in a Walmart parking lot on the way to our giant SUV wearing cargo shorts and crocks, isn’t the pinnacle of white North American culture?!?! Additionally, “white people” is a very broad label. It doesn’t differentiate between, say, German, Irish, Italian, or British folks. Usually those people are talking about white Americans, not Europeans tho; similar to when a white Americans says „y do black peoples…“ they‘re not talking about Ghanaians or Cameroonians Okay. There are many cultural zones within the US – and even within each state. Take Maine, for example: The coast is defined by the fishing and lobster industries, along with the stereotypical accent. Go a few hours north, and you’ll find potato fields and the pocket of Acandian French people who stopped in Maine as opposed to continuing down to Louisiana.
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“White” is not really a culture it’s a stereotype. I’ve never seen a culturally Irish person talk with a culturally Italian person and discuss how they were so culturally similar cause of their matching skin tone. Nobody I know walks around talking about their “whiteness” unless they’re joking in relation to how “black culture” observes light skinned people. Like how is a dark skinned dude in Paris that has never been to the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but US have anything to do with “black culture” over here? He doesn’t— yet he comes over here he’s automatically perceived by society as part of black culture due to historical racism. Whereas if a light skinned dude from Paris comes over he’s conversely light skin stereotyped. They could have the same exact actual culture but nobody seems to give a shit because we’re being taught to judge people differently based on their skin tone.
I personally hate being called “white.” I’m light brown and don’t have any connection with anything culturally related to my skin tone. This is the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but part where people start to tell me how privileged I am to not be discriminated against by light skinned racists like that’s supposed to be my cultural identity. For example, Pasta is attributed to originating from China. Does that mean that Fettuccini Alfredo is Chinese culture? No, its Italian. We all know its Italian. Like by this logic, since White people created basketball, does that mean the NBA is White culturally? Cause its blatantly Black at this point. Levi’s were a Jewish-Bulgarian-American invention. (In consideration of race, Jewish people aren’t white.) And rock n roll grew out of Black music. Think Little Richard and Jackie Brenston, the writers of the first real rock n roll songs, in 1957. Tutti Frutti & Rocket 88, respectively.
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I also feel this when certain people try to bring up “straight pride” as a counter to any form of LGBT awareness. I’m pretty sure it’s Valentines Day, because I refuse to believe anyone with the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but slightest drop of fabulous in their body is filling the shelves with ugly bears holding hearts that say “HOTT STUFF” and play an off key Great Balls of Fire. “White” is only really homogenous in an “us vs. them” racist context in America. In truth, white people have all kinds of different cultures. In the northeast, there are a lot of white Catholics who eat a lot of red meat and potatoes, while in the south you’ll find a bunch of evangelicals and Baptists who eat biscuits and gravy and chicken fried steak. You will see the same different cultures with black people, asians, hispanics or whatever. People simply don’t fall neatly into such simple categories.
today on reddit we discover that humans are diverse and making any sweeping generalizations about groups of us is at best meaningless Something can be complicated without being meaningless. I am unlike many people from my state but I still identify and find meaning within that identity To borrow an analogy from Red of Overly Sarcastic Productions: being put in a box by someone else doesn’t feel great, but finding a box that you like is wonderful Country blacks and city blacks live vastly different lives and have extremely different experiences, yet the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but media tries to portray black culture as a monolith. The same is true for whites. The media profits from racial animosity, so that is the reductionist narrative it chooses to view everything through.
Agree with the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but first half, but not the second half. White people are routinely portrayed in media as having a diverse array of subcultures. It’s just as bad with Hispanics, where indigenous Americans, African descendants, white Europeans and their descendents, and any mix thereof gets lumped into the same label. One big difference with the descendants of black slaves in the US from other races you listed or more recent African immigrants is that other races can trace their heritage to other specific countries and even regions. Black slaves had their heritage erased and their descendants don’t really have a specific history past slavery. 23 and me would broke if people already knew their heritage. Most know four or five generations at most, and half of us think we’re part Native American and can publish cookbooks for our pow wows.
They did when they were used as categories for chattel slavery. Which is why you can talk about ‘black americans’ as a cohesive class and not, really, ‘white americans.’ I think an important thing to note is that black culture in America is a thing, partially as a result of so many people losing track of their lineage because of the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but slave trade. That is not to say that all black people in the US follow that, but a large portion do. Exactly. “White” isn’t a culture or a nationality or a group. Italian Americans have their own culture, southern Baptists have their own culture, etc. And once you start looking for all of these varieties you really start to see how many there are and how strong of a presence some still have in their communities! I grew up in a pretty rural part of Michigan that would certainly appear pretty homogenous at a surface glance. But there are a ton of different cultures all mixed in with a lot of traditional references to the “old country”. There are Polish festivals, German festivals, Dutch festivals. There are small communities of Hungarians and Irish and Italians. Further north you have the Finnish and Welsh and Norwegians. Most of my ancestors didn’t even speak English until my grandparents’ or great-grandparents’ generations because their local communities were so strong here. Go to any potluck and you are going to find all sorts of traditional dishes (or their Americanized versions). But it would be silly to call any of these “white” culture. They are German culture, Dutch culture, Hungarian culture, etc.
I’d be inclined to call the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but mixing itself “American” culture. I’ve got a few friends from Europe, India and Asia, and they’ve all commented more than once they think it’s fantastic that in any given city in the US you can find a Mexican taco place, some take on Chinese food, sushi, a pizza/pasta/Italian joint, Indian and/or Thai curry, maybe a German food spot, plus the basic meat/potatoes fare. Sure, a lot of that stuff might not be as “authentic” as if you were in Bavaria or Shanghai or Mumbai, but they’re usually within sight of the originals. Meaning you get to experience at least a bit of all these places all at once if you want. Same with the cultural festivals. Oktoberfest, or Greek Days, or Lunar New Year, or whatever all show up in various iterations and most the celebrations I’ve ever seen are more than happy to have anyone join in and participate and appreciate the celebrations, meaning you get to learn new stuff without having a passport. All this is something at least sort of unique to America
This is the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but real answer. White isn’t a homogeneous experience. It isn’t even a shared Genesis. We’ve all immigrated to the IS at different times and many of us “earned our whiteness” at different times. Black is largely seen as a culture because most black Americans were forced to come here at the same time, have little knowledge of their ancestry, have been given rights at the same time, etc etc… so there’s actually a real shared experience among black Americans. I can tell you from traveling across Europe that every/nearly every country claims potatoes as a very important, core cultural food. This right here which white Culture shall I be English, Eastern European, Spanish, Scandinavian, Italian? I’m mostly English but I don’t really go around acting like I’m English, just a American west coast white dude that sounds like a soap opera.
Yup. An awful lot of white Americans will have a smattering of all of those and others, too. After a couple of generations of mixing, that ethnicity is pretty diluted. This is a clear example of not understanding what culture is in this context. You can’t choose to be a culture from one of the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but heritages on your ancestry test. There are kids born to Nigerian immigrants in London that are culturally English/ Nigerian. You, as guy born and raised in the US are not. True, but there are cultural centers or parades or whatever that are not racist but focus on black, asian, latina, whatever group of Americans. I think that’s what OP is talking about. Of course we know why because they are the ones in power, and historically, white pride does not mean what it does for other groups and is instead about racism. Have a white student center on campus would not fly, but you could have a Swiss student center. However, you could have a black student center and not just a Nigerian student center.
Japanese-Americans and Korean-Americans have very different cultural norms, yet Asian-Americans in general have shared cultural traits that are different from European-American traits. I think there are cultural traits for Americans of European heritage that are substantively different from Americans of African, Latin American, or Asian descent and I don’t see why that has to be considered racist. I can certainly see why some expressions of that could be racist. But I don’t see why it is inherently racist because there are cultural traits shared at a level above their individual sub-cultures. This is an excellent point. “White” only exists because of slavery, segregation, and the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but conquest and oppression of native peoples. If you look at culture from a food, religion, language & in group perspective “white” from an American context really only has a common in group. A weird by product is to a significant extent the culture of the original “white” colonists was kind of lost or subsumed into a broader American culture.
This is what I was told as well. There really wasn’t a “white” until slavery came to the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but United States. Before it was just Dutch, Spanish, British groups coming to colonize the States. Technically Romans had a concept of “white” in ancient times but it didn’t extend to the northern, very light-haired and pale-skinned people who would today be considered the purist form of “white”. Being too white meant you were probably some kind of barbarian. Yeah in group dynamics are wild. The Greeks considered anyone who wasn’t Greek to be a barbarian, Romans included. There was also no “racial” category of who could and couldn’t be a slave in most of the ancient world. And this is actually what people are talking about when they say white culture doesn’t exist in the US. American culture as a whole is a hodgepodge of other cultures, many of which are not European. Like, the cultural markers are either white but not uniquely American or they are American but not uniquely white.
There are various European cultures that people are descended from and if they maintain their connections and practices, that’s fantastic. I have seen heritage celebrations for Polish people, Lithuanian people, Romanian people, Ukrainian people, Irish people, Italian people, on and on, but none of those is “white culture.” That is because to be just “white” is to give that up as an identity, maybe maintain three cultural dishes, and join a group whose only collective cultural values are domination, subjugation, consumerism. For so many European immigrants, the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but option was to maintain their culture or be able to have access to the “American Dream” they traveled for. So they changed their last names, they didn’t teach their kids their language or practices, and they learned to dress and speak and cook “like an American.”
Hell, even up thread are people claiming that “white culture” is iPhones and blue jeans. Cool, bro. When you’re comparing that to groups that have full folk faiths, styles of dress that have lasted for centuries, traditions around weddings, funerals, births and deaths, food, drinks, holidays, art, music, and ways of life that are uniquely theirs, yeah…they don’t. Excellent points! I think the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but melting pot aspect of America kind of made this the case broadly in the 20th century. The place where I think you see this the resentment of white culture not being a thing hardest is areas of the country where there hasn’t been a ton of European migration since the end of the 19th century. My two cents, I think culture can very easily be (and primarily is) independent of race and is much more closely correlated with geographic closeness. In fact I would say the larger in scale you try to define a culture “American” or “European” the less correlation with race there is. There are white rappers and black skateboarders and Asian movie stars, who may be prominent parts of “American” culture but all might be absent from “white” culture. White culture may come from European heritage and religions, but I think their persistence depends on where you are. Near where I live is one of the largest celebrations of Dyngus Day in America, but you may not find a ton of Polish-descended people way across the country also celebrating it simply because they weren’t exposed to it. Similarly, white people around mountains might be more inclined to go a Ski Jump competition instead of a Tractor Pull.
Maybe this begets another question: does a race or people or region inventing or starting some action or meme make it part of their culture? Or is it simply the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but group that propagates it? Does it matter? I do think the internet and America’s “melting pot” qualities are basically streamlining the memetic process and culture is going through it’s evolution at higher speeds. People who never would’ve been exposed to certain cultures can see them in seconds and in extreme detail. Perhaps this is why you see so much protectiveness about them: as a side effect of the internet, now anyone anywhere can partake of it. My two cents, I think culture can very easily be (and primarily is) independent of race and is much more closely correlated with geographic closeness. Just a tangent here before I bring it all back. This is part of the ethnicity debate between the US and say, European perspectives. To a European, ethnicity is closer to what Americans call nationalism. It’s the culture, the world perspectives, the mannerisms, the actions, the opinions that all define a group. It doesn’t really have any bearing on where your ancestry is from (or general race), it depends on what culture and language circle you grow up in. This is why there is lots of banter of US people calling themselves Italian or Irish and native Italians and Irish having a laugh about it. The insinuation, the meaning of saying you are X is different across the pond. Doesn’t make either right or wrong, there is no actual clear definition of what ethnicity means, so its used differently all over the world to suit more local perspectives.
As I said, tangent, but in some way reaffirms your point, but also opens up to how you can have differing views on something simply because your comprehension of a term like race, ethnicity, culture, heritage isn’t 1:1 with the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but person you are talking to. From our European perspective, Americans openly using their ancestry identity is a distinctly American cultural trait that forms part of an overarching American ethnicity. Even if an American sees a massive difference between themselves because one is Irish, one is Italian and say their respective cultures are on full display, to native Irish and Italians there is more things that unify those different Americans than differentiates them and neither are at all like the natives. Any cultural differences are only really obvious to an American and the importance of that differentiation is uniquely American in context. To bring it all back, that sort of thing is an example of culture and that is because of geographic proximity, language and country boarder range and general history of the country and its people (regardless of ancestry or phenotypical traits).
So when I go to answer “does a race or people or region inventing or starting some action or meme make it part of their culture?”, I’d think what is culture to you? Is celebrating Dyngus Day done in the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but same vein and context of Polish people in Poland, or is Dyngus Day celebrations where you live an American culture of displaying or reaffirming ones heritage by holding on to this type of tradition? They could be the same thing on paper, but two very different things in reality and cultural context… which makes them different anyway. In a funny way it’s actually more america-centric to say America doesn’t have a culture, especially white Americans. Drive-thrus, NFL, swing music, baseball, heavy metal, pop, Hollywood, diners, high school/college sport, etc.
Yeah, it’s just like saying “Americans don’t have an accent”. It puts it as the Cincinnati Bengals AFC East Division Logo Shirt it is in the first place but ‘normal’ foundational background and subverts other accents to abnormal. I mean. Rednecks. Just saying. Every country has its lowbrow culture. But american redneck culture is unique. And you dont even gotta be white to be a redneck lol lol, when I went to Iceland last year I ended up chatting with a couple dudes in some bar in a small town up north. They were absolutely enamored with the American South. All sorts of dreams of “having a lawn big enough to justify one of those riding lawnmowers. Just go out with a beer in my lap, and ride around. That’s the life.” They were very disappointed to learn that I’m a northern city boy, lol I’m a born Spaniard and I am in love with southern style music. Acustic guitars and stuff like that, can’t get enough of it
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