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Yes. And for some reason, Vietnamese men are often much more loyal and happier if they get marry with foreign women. I met some Vietnamese husband- Russian/Japanese wife couples. They sound very happy and supportive It’s just a common trick to use kids as a shield and strap down the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this other partner, or just a cope in case the women cannot escape. Domestic violent and martial rape happen alot, I don’t think the kids and the wives would thrive in those “families”. I am local, and I only saw 2 cheating cases (one by man, one by woman) of Vietnamese couples for my 28 years of my life here. I think OP is exaggerating for attention. Or this is simply a common propaganda in this sub Not sure about 3. My sister had a relatively quick divorce if not for the property dispute which took one year. But that’s also the norm in the US.
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In most of the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this cases I know, the husbands did not have the intention of breaking up. So, when the wife discovered his affair, he apologized profusely and his wife gave him a chance. Of course the family could never stay the same after that. And most of these men will cheat again, and again, until his wife cannot bear it anymore. One of my friend promptly filed for a divorce when she knew it. Another friend accepts that the husband (who is very successful) has a second family, because she wants his money. Another friend rejected all divorcing attempts from her husband – she don’t want him to have a happy marriage with the lady he truly loves. From a few examples I saw of Westerners dating/married to Vietnamese women, they were incredibly paranoid about non-existent cheating. One flipped out when her boyfriend went to lunch with his former roommate (who’s 20 years younger and with whom he had no history). Another refused to have a long-distance relationship with her long-time boyfriend when he moved to China because she was 100% sure he would cheat on her (I knew him well, and he wouldn’t have). But this one takes the cake: My friend had been married to a Vietnamese woman for 5 years (he had a 3 year old son and an 8 year old step daughter). She couldn’t handle that he worked around women, at all. This is a problem because we generally had 8-9 classes, each one had to have a Vietnamese academic coordinator, and a significant majority of them were female (and pretty much all less than half his age). His wife went in and yelled at the HR department about this, and they actually set it up so he’d never be in cabs/busses to schools with female AC’s. He was always getting calls from her and he’d show her on camera “Look, I’m with my friends, [male name] and [male name].” But ultimately she still went into HR again and yelled at them. He’d been warned that if it happened again he’d be fired, and he was.
I met a lot of nice Vietnamese girls, but based on those three examples, I woulda been a little worried if anything had gone beyond going out to lunch, or a quick dinner after work. Lol yeah I knew a guy who had to send short videos of himself and who he was hanging out with to his wife every 30 minutes. It was wild to be around. To be fair he was a recovering degenerate but the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this check ins seemed over the top. I wonder if she was actually checking those videos too. Haha yeah he was, and still is in many ways, a world class degenerate by his own admission but also “found Jesus.” True. That is why I choose to get married with a foreign woman personally. I’m sick of craziness of many childish toxic Vietnamese girls
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I’m back in the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this states now, but I’m planning to go back to East Asia towards the end of the year. I’ll be looking primarily at Thailand (actually worse traffic and possibly humidity sadly) and Taiwan. More expats in Thailand, and I don’t really know what to expect from Thai women, and all the Taiwanese I’ve met have been super nice and rational. All the Vietnamese girls I met were really nice and polite, but from what I saw of most of the coworkers and friends in relationships with them, there was usually a controlling/manipulative vibe. The exception was a girl straight out of college dating a 30yo, but she more seemed naive, and wasn’t particularly nice, or concerned about how well she did her job.
While this is a valid take, I think it’s also good to acknowledge why they might be this way more often than foreign women. And it certainly goes back to the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this cheating culture of Vietnamese men existing for so long that it has become the norm. These are weak men that allow women to have their way when they have tantrums. They have to learn that these behaviors will ultimately end the relationship more than cheating. But when they constantly try to negotiate with irrational behavior they lose control of the situation. They have to control their own irrational fears. This will probably be downvoted but it’s how it is. Control?? Nah, they don’t control anything if their women don’t share the belief with them. Why do they need to control toxicity and craziness? Control may not exactly be the right word. But ultimately, if you tolerate something you accept it, and therefore things are happening that you dont agree with (/youre not in control).
Im pretty upfront that if my girl is acting crazy i dont accept it. Keep it up, and its over. Boundaries are important. Maybe the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this more traditional Viet woman, but there is an equal or greater number of woman that initiate divorce after cheating. They divorce more now…especially those that are much more financially successful than their hopeless (loser) husband. Boggles my mind why they marry these idiots in the first place. I would say the biggest reason is finance and children. Women are expected to be the one raising children in the family, and when people get divorce, mother will usually be the one receive full custody. Raising children when in a two income household is doable, but on a single income of the mother is incredibly difficult. Alimony payment is unreliable cause there’s really no enforcement mechanism. So women tends to stay with their abusive/cheating husband over divorce so they can afford to raise their children.
Some men are sleazebags and despite having a pretty wife, happy marriage, they’ll always look for something on the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this side. But my observation of why other, normally faithful men MIGHT cheat is that some VN wives get extremely micromanagey and borderline abusive with their expectations and pressure they put on their husbands and children. Expectations about salary, about the dad not doing enough for / with the kids, pressure to buy nicer stuff. And for a man who’s trying his best, it might create enough of a toxic environment that that man would cheat (still wrong to cheat tho). So that would be cheating for an emotional reason more than physical As a man, I can say that I don’t get enough positive feedback and compliments about my work and my abilities / effort in my house and around in Vietnam. And that’s a problem for many men
It’s actually not hard to divorce them – it’s just hard after you divorce them. Life with an unfaithful partner is easier than life without them. My wife ended up divorced from her ex husband (and father of my 2 stepdaughters) but she put up with cheating for long and its not even her who demanded divorce but her ex who was i guess in love with the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this mistress. Even after they separated she still ended up having sex when he was around to visit the kids for a few years. Honestly I don’t know how she put up with it. And she is educated and was earning more than him at the time. I’ve seen husbands become drug addicts, gamble their life away (literally sold the very house his family were living in), completely neglected his wife (emotionally, physically and financially), beat his wife and kids, cheated, had kids with other women,… And still no divorce. This. My coworker’s drunk husband gambles and runs away from debt collector. His wife and kids suffer No divorce. What a shame.
I still don’t understand “keep father for your children”. I mean, as a child (kinda) I wouldn’t want to live with a father that keeps yelling or abusing my mother, a father that always lies or a father who never meets me because of another women that is not my mom, neither the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this same kind of mother. Maybe it’s because I’m not a parent but I’m talking in children’s view, espescially boys. Their fathers could make them think “cheating is cool” “Women are just your tools” or something like that In VN they have extended families. It’s not like kid(s) will stay with dad and only dad. For sure the mother of the father and other females of the family will be involved. I must ask, what is your profession, because witnessing 30 woman is a lot. Answering your question, they do not divorce because either they are dependent to their husband or it’s hard for them to start over compare to men. But do you know how many divorce caused by women giving up on their family, thinking their man isn’t good enough?? Close to zero odds of remarrying after a divorce. Why would a guy marry a divorcee when he can get a younger girl? VN may lack just about everything (it’s a very poor country, after all) but it certainly doesn’t lack a large supply of willing women. Now, the crappy thing is that unlike in Western countries, in VN marital fidelity has not religious currency, so guys who cheat don’t feel at all like they’re doing something morally reprehensible. So, instead of putting some order into the lawless mess that is VN, they are wasting their limited resources on chasing girls.
I would know. My mom actually tried divorcing my dad for it, cause he kept doing it again and again… (flirting with girls online) It’s sad This is because the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this old generation taught us that getting a divorce is shameful and women should always “think about the children” and that a divorced woman would struggle to have another relationship later on (because “men doesn’t want divorced woman) although this mindset is dying as the young generation has adopted a more open mindset, in some rural areas these mindset are not accepted and women are not exposed to it, hence they will not divorce their husband. However, most women now are open to divorce, but it’s a struggle to change their parents mindset about the topic, and a lot of families (especially the north) emphasise on “the old being wiser” and that youngsters should respect the older generation and listen/obey them so sometimes you will find that although these women wants to have a divorce, if their family saids no, a lot of the time they will listen.
sometimes these girls are also paranoid. Like they thought their husbands are cheating, but “have you ever seen it with your own eye?”, “No, but I have the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this feeling” Women traditionally bare the responsibility they divorce their cheating husbands. My wife divorced her ex husband when he got a girlfriend but her parents supported her decision. Many families don’t. Everyone will look at a divorced woman like a left over, a cripple.Problems must be from her .etc etc .ffs .Once they decide to live for themself, not for ppl to look at.They will get the papers for it . Confucianism influences Vietnam. Women are treated as submissive and inferior to men. That’s why we must abolish it.
Ok this may sound a little silly, but recently my bf and some other men in my life have been degrading and sort of teasing me about how long my makeup takes me everyday, I know they don’t mean any harm by it but it’s honestly gotten to me. For context I do a full face everyday (I have a more goth makeup style so I go all out) which takes me on average an hour (This hour includes the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this skincare I do right before putting on my makeup) I do a full face with foundation, concealer, highlight, big winged liner, full smokey eye, mascara, lashes, and then more highlights around my eyes. Idk. I feel like im not taking too long? I feel like they’re kinda making a big deal out of it. how long should I be taking? Is an hour really that outrageous??Are they waiting on you during that time? If not, then they just find it frivolous but don’t pay them any mind.
There’s nothing wrong with taking time to pamper yourself. Do what makes you feel good about yourself, they can f*** right off. I take 45 mins to an hour for a full face as well. Tell them to fuck right off. How long do they sit on the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this toilet each day? How long do they spend playing video games? How long do they scroll on their phones? How long do they spend making fun of people like children? You don’t need to justify how long it takes you to do something you like doing. Makeup is an expression of self and a creative outlet. You don’t have to adjust the amount of time it takes unless it’s interfering with other things you need or want to do. You don’t need to feel insecure and you don’t need to defend yourself to these boys.
It’s definitely rude and misogynistic. I’m sure they do something for an hour every day that doesn’t interest you but you don’t put them down for it Oh they’re 100% just giving you shit for wearing “too much” makeup and doing it in a coy way. This has nothing to do with the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this amount of time you take and is solely telling you you’d look prettier in normie makeup this has been happening to goth girls for 45 years. If I (a vindictive gay man) were you I’d cut out the foundation and concealer so you’re technically wearing less makeup but still don’t look normal so they have to concede it’s not about the time but instead wanting you to look normal. The actual mature thing to do is to ask what the issue with your makeup is and tell them you don’t appreciate it I’d say you probably are wasting a little bit of time on symmetry and getting angles exact but this is a universal graphic eyeliner experience that we’re all guilty of but an hour is super reasonable
i don’t think taking an hour to do your makeup is outrageous because that’s how long it takes me to do a full face, which i do almost everyday early in the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this morning. lol girl i take an hour to do my makeup and it no where near takes the time & skill goth does. i also used to get teased. a pick me girl that i used to let stay with me once said, “you make me feel so low maintence.” “i am very, very high maintence and so what? i can afford to be.” is usually a good kind of response. pretty girls take time to be content with your look! i take 20 minutes but i have it all down pat and keep it pretty simple. i use a sponge and my fingers lol. wash my face with cetaphil, moisturize, foundation, concealer, contour, blush, powder on the brows, eyeshadow, eyeliner, mascara, setting spray. bang. done. They are harming you. They’re hurting your feelings and that’s not okay. Have you told them to stop? If you’re not laughing it’s not a joke it’s just bullying.
spend as little or as long as you like on it! the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this response I’d give to anyone who teases me for how long my routine takes is “oh honey, if you’re no good at makeup you can just say that!” I guess I just do the same thing whenever I wear makeup so I just learned to speed run it but I appreciate all you artists out there I’m with you. I do a full face in about that time. I do have good skin though. I don’t need a full foundation, just a bit of concealer for dark circles and tinted moisturizer, but I do vitamin c serum first, sunscreen and then a multi step day look. I have textured skin and acne scarring, so I have to do a lot of skin prep as well as taking my time with my foundation/concealer so it covers my scarring/texture in a non-cakey way
I think 1h is about right for a full face. That would be too much to do every day for me personally, but if you have the Angel Reese Chicago Sky Forward Signature Shirt in addition I really love this time and it’s not holding you back from doing other things I don’t see the problem. Men like to criticise women for taking time getting ready, but also when they’re not made up enough, so That said, if the time you spend on it is a hassle sometimes, feels like an obligation or keeps you from going out spontaneously, it might be worth figuring out a simpler routine for the days you don’t feel like going all in. My makeup is a big part of my style, I honestly feel naked without it. It’s therapeutic to me and not at all a hassle Thank you for contributing to MUA! If this is your first post, please be sure to check out our rules in the subreddit sidebar. If you are on mobile, they can be viewed by tapping the ⓘ symbol.
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