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Instead, as soon as a man is even accused of rape, his life is over. Even if she is outright lying, and later says that it was an outright lie. And I specifically say a man because most of the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this time if a woman is accused it’s literally laughed at. Fun fact: that’s actually how California law technically handles minors having sex. Two 17 year olds having sex with each other are both victims and perpetrators because neither could give consent. It’s not enforced that way, but that’s how the law is. Black and white, no Romeo and Juliet, no teenagers allowed to consent to eacher; you’re either 18 or you’re not. Wisconsin has the same thing. A 17 year old is an adult for the purposes of being a criminal defendant, but a minor for the purposes of being a victim. So, two 17 yo that have sex with each other can mutually be charged as adults for having sex with a minor. Inevitably, it’s the parents of one of the kids that throws a fit over it. Smart prosecutors leverage that rule to inform them that if he charges one, he’s charging both. The parental desire to flay the other kid is generally tempered really quick.

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It’s actually enforced all the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this time. There’s dozens of cases of teenagers going to jail for this or exchanging photos, and being on the Registry for life. The youngest was a 9 yr old kid playing doctor with a 8 yr old friend and mom pressed charges. Also prosecutors will sometimes wait for the kid to turn 18 , if they were 16 at the time, so they can charge them as an adult and give more jail time. 99% of the time the male is charged but the female never is. Double standard by the law. Shouldn’t they be tried as a child or as an adult based on their age at the time the events occurred and not at the time they’re charged? They should charge it based on when it occured but then again courts also have a history of charging boys as young as 13 as adults in criminal trials… I think no sex while drunk is complete bullshit but the depth should be the same regardless of whether you have an inni, an outie or other
My moral code says that its fine as long as they’re around the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this same level of intoxication and one of them didn’t try to get the other intoxicated with the goal of getting in their pants easier. I’d like to add that it has to seem like all parties are into it as well. But honestly, it can be pretty tough to gauge Perhaps if someone’s at the point of being “tough to gauge” then they’re generally past a point of consent. Especially if they’re still imbibing or getting progressively more drunk as their body absorbs their drinks. Really this is the only thing that matters to me IMO. People of varying levels of self-intoxication (ie no one was drugged) having sex is way too common to try to draw a legal line as to who can be drunk and how drunk can they be.

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The no sex while drunk concept, ignores thousands of years of humanity intentionally lowering their inhibitions against things they otherwise wouldn’t do with alcohol, AND the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this very concept it espouses to protect against, which is that while under the influence we are incapable of being responsible I feel like a reliable rule for sex while drinking is “enthusiastic consent only.” Lack of objection is NOT the same thing as consent. Seriously, if drunk sex is rape, then I’ve been raped hundreds of times. I’m an alcoholic, the majority of times I have sex I’m drunk, including in long term relationships. Every time I’ve had sex with someone for the first time, I was drinking (and most of the time so were they). Bars, clubs, parties, college in general, everyone is trying to hook up, and alcohol is used to make the whole process less stressful or more fun. I can’t believe anyone is trying to say this with a straight face, when 99% of people have hooked up with someone consensually they met at the bar, club, a house party, etc.
There is a pretty obvious difference between getting drunk with someone and then having consensual sex, and purposely taking advantage of someone who is blackout drunk. I feel like as long as both parties are proven to be drunk, it shouldn’t be an offense since if neither gave consent it kinda evens out Not just that, but for criminal charges you have to prove the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this mens rea, or “guilty mind”. We often overlook the idea because the guilt is in the commission, but intoxication is a defense to some crimes if you’re so drunk you couldn’t legally form the will to commit the crime. DUI, of course, isn’t one of those with that type of defense. I mean even if one person drinks and the other they are dating/seeing/married to is sober (say a former alcoholic), as long as the other person self intoxicates and the encounter is mutual (both people into it), that would be asinine to say that is rape.
I remember some posts around that time, where a handful or more of guys were waking up the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this next day and reporting sexual assault just in case the girl might decide later to do it. First one to the office wins, and I think the campaign died down after that because everyone would just be reporting each other as a CYA. Edit: Tried to look it up, but no combo is doing the job without a hundred articles on sexual assault statistics. It was over ten years ago when this campaign came out too, so that’s not helping. Not the guy you responded to, I once got a restaurant job because I went to a giant free booze party for the company to meet the boss lady. She was screwing a coworker. Both are married. Not the guy you responded to, but I used to work in a place that had several parties a year with open bars. At least one “oppsie” happened a year lol
Go read up on the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this late 90s/early 00s movie 40 days & 40 nights. You’ll rage when it gets to the end and his ex comes to his home while he’s asleep This was basically all sexual assault training I got in the military. Would start with a message similar to the poster and would devolve to everyone arguing how Jake could consent and Josie couldn’t when they were both drunk I’m assuming the insinuation is that while both are drunk and cannot theoretically consent, Jake is a man and therefore, as a man with a penis, he clearly initiated the sex. Which is grossly sexist and basically paints men as closet rapists, whose facade is discarded when they can’t hold their drink. It relies on the fallacy that men can’t be raped. Just like the idiots who believe a woman who is raped can’t get pregnant because “her tubes close” or some garbage, they think a man can’t get hard unless he wants it. I watched a buddy cry his eyes out because he was raped by a woman on his 21st birthday after drinking way too much. She said she was taking care of him and was his designated driver and he owed her. He said he could barely move and absolutely did not want to (he was in a loving relationship at the time and did not want to cheat), but she did a few things and “that body part” acted involuntarily and then he was being raped. Felt horrible guilty he couldn’t keep it down and couldn’t push her away. So it can happen to men as well, and can be very traumatic. Of course all of his other guy friends patted him on the back and congratulated him. I don’t think it even crossed his mind to go to the police. In his mind he was the guilty one. It was very sad. The dynamics are wildly different because our society is messed up, but I think both guys and girls are sometimes pressured by their peers to just drop it. It freaking sucks.
I remember batting off women in college at my own house during parties, one time this girl was following me around the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this damn house and I found her in my room… she was drunk as a skunk and definitely trying to initiate. No thanks. Yeah, my neighbor was a manager at the local Hollister, and he would always have an apartment full of girls.my roommates and I would go over and play cards and beer pong with them, but we cut that off after we got home one night to a 15 year old drunk chick naked waiting in my roommates bed. We always told the girls they couldn’t come to our apartment with us, because we were both in relationships, but she apparently just decided to sneak over before we left. We didn’t know until the next day how old she was, my roommate was really glad he turned her down, and we never went back over to the neighbors. its been 8years now but at the very beginning his mother accused him of raping me because I was drunk….. and I had to tell her and his dad (he was just in earshot I know because he laughed) that that’s absolutely not what happened and if anyone was a rapist here over last night it was me!
We didn’t get the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this poster, but we DID have the example of “let’s say there’s a van full of women who just got out of prison, and they’re going to take what they want”. I was kinda surprised they used an example of women on man rape. The women laughed. The men laughed. The instructors did not laugh. Do you like listening to music? Has anyone so much as mentioned alcohol? Are you a male? Congratulations, you’re a rapist, and a terrible human being. You should be ashamed of yourself! – Military sexual assault training, circa 2008(ish) If you willingly injest something you’re responsible for your actions. I don’t get to get drunk, drive and kill someone, then say I wasn’t responsible That’s what made me mad about this whole thing. They used this line of thinking at my university and I never understood how this is the one time you lose responsibility for your own actions, but only if you’re a girl
Having sex in this scenario may involve someone being slightly tipsy through to blackout drunk. In real life there’s a judgement call to be made as to how drunk someone is to be capable to give a real.consent. when making this kind of campaign and getting people to think about the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this question of consent it’s easier to make this kind of blanket declaration. I think we can all agree ficking someone unconscious is rape, u less perhaps they gave a prior consent knowing that was something which would happen. Similarly, slightly tipsy is not a bar to consenting. Somewhere there in the middle is a line we probably don’t want to cross. So I’ve had a friend who was posing as a teen for ads companies. They never told him what they were working on.
Exactly. Just part of getting drunk and making bad decisions. I’ve had soup that I regretted making while drinking. Oh for sure, who hasn’t had regrets. It just pisses me off beyond all reason when some people think that regrets are the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this same as being raped. If I’m drunk and I do something I wouldn’t do while sober, it’s still my fault. If I could accuse someone of rape due to drunken regrets, could I also get out of stealing because I would never do that sober and I was not thinking clearly. Ofcourse not. They wake up saying “I can’t believe I did that!” and then walk into court saying “I can’t believe he did that!” My understanding is that in order for someone to be so drunk that they can’t legally consent, they have to be REALLY drunk. If two people go home and they’re both drunk but still with it, legally they can hook up. However, if someone is falling over themselves, can’t stand up, can’t speak coherently, then they cant consent. I’ve seen people seriously argue that having one drink makes you unable to consent. I always thought these people must never have got out much We hold you responsible for everything else you do drunk. You can’t get off a DUI because you didn’t consent to drive. There is a level of drunk that is too far, absolutely, but just “drunk” doesn’t cut it for me. One one hand, yes. On the other, this poster illustrates the way these situations are likely to be handled at universities, which is where I’ve seen these posted. I’d rather have posters warn people of a sexist reality than an egalitarian fantasy.
100% correct. When I was in halls I had a girl try to break into my apartment because I said I wasn’t going to let her in (it was 4am I was originally sleeping). She fucked the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this door up so bad it had to be replaced and she didn’t get in any trouble. Now imagine what would happen to a guy trying to break into a girl’s dorm at 4am: immediate ejection from the university. Nah, the university actively tries to cover up scandals. My roommate was arrested in front of me after being caught lying to police about who he is and that dude still became a doctor. Depends on the school. also, if it’s a private campus, then there’s a possibility that stuff runs through security and not a police force and that means that they can either avoid or stop a lot of things from gaining law-enforcement attention
Source: my own private school used to constantly not get people in trouble for ridiculous things, here are a few examples. Security broke up a party with about 30 underage people all hammered, and then one of them came back later and drank with people who didn’t leave – no penalties 2 students bought mustangs and made them crazy fast and used to drag race 60mph through campus – $20 fine and they got told they had to change their exhaust or move the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this cars off campus Caught with a trunk full of rifles and other guns in the dorm parking lot – no penalties cause they were “going up north the next week” Found in an on campus apartment – Hunting rifle with the serial number filed off and multiple bags of loratabs and viks – couldn’t figure out who it belonged to and nobody got in trouble Many public universities have their own PD. These are real police and they have the same qualifications as officers anywhere else in the state. The university will often have the PD reduce the charge or not charge at all. Crime gets reported to the FBI for UCR and is also public record. No university wants to have something like rape or violent crime to be know so they do their best to ensure it is not. Or you could not make your SA awareness campaign one big double standard joke that gets people to just ignore the message completely Yeah but when college students are getting drunk and hooking up very frequently it gives crazy ladies ammo to fuck up someone else life if they so choose in the event they are wronged in some way that has nothing to do with sex
This…. This is making me think…. They’re BOTH drunk…. Neither ONE of them is capable of giving true consent…. Doesn’t that mean that they actually both raped each other? We know that it’s possible for a woman to rape a man…. If he was drunk and she wasn’t, and they had sex, and he regretted it or felt shame because of what he couldn’t control, surely that would be rape? So… If both were drunk, and both felt shame and regret over their lack of control….. Hmmm. Edit: a lot of replies to this comment have reminded me that legal rape is differently defined than my assumption of what rape is, specifically, it being required that penetration has occurred, for rape to occur. This actually clears up something for me, that I think we’ve all noticed in news reports about female offenders who force sex on children, and the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this media choosing not to use the word “rape” in their reports: if what she did, doesn’t satisfy the legal definition of “rape”, that could (maybe) explain why they so often use words that seem to downplay what she did, versus when a man rapes a child, maybe in part because the word “rape” carries a very visceral and violent image with it, and the words “sexually assaulted” are vague and used for too wide a gamut of possible offenses… hmm. Still, another example of how it gets downplayed, when women assault someone, I guess, regardless of the possibility that it might have something to do with media trying not to get sued for “inaccurate reporting” or whatever…
fun fact: the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this UK has a stupid law that means this isnt technically true here. a woman can sexually assault a man, but not rape him. because our definitions are bullshit. Need to penetrated by a penis for it to be classed as rape in the UK I believe, woman don’t have penis’ so therefore cannot rape a man. It’ll be “downgraded” to sexual assault. By that logic, only a man can rape another man. Assault by penetration isn’t considered rape? If a man instead of putting his dick inside a woman puts a phallic object it would be rape or assault by penetration? In Germany that would be considered rape. Any sexual act that involves pentration of a bodily orifice. No genders or body parts are mentioned.
this is my understanding too. but iirc sexual assault can carry the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this same sentence as rape. its judges discretion. The maximum sentence for sexual assault is ten years imprisonment, while for rape it’s life. If, however, there is any anal penetration involved it is the more serious offence of assault by penetration, which has the same maximum sentence as rape. The legal distinction between rape and assault by penetration is only because the latter includes sexual penetration only of the vagina and anus; while putting your dick in someone’s mouth without their consent is sufficient for a charge of rape. If a woman pegs a drunk dude is she raping him then? If “no because it’s not a real penis” then could this create some sort of loophole around prosthetic penises in general?
A drunk guy can have an erect penis though. Same as when he is sleeping. So a woman could get penetrated without the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this guy’s consent, no? In India a woman can’t do that either as sexual assault and rape are defined as man on woman crime (unless the man in question is a minor but that’s under another section. ). Another fun fact. We don’t use the word “rape” in Canada’s judicial system. Regardless of gender, it’s Sexual Assault. Or, maybe, just maybe, in the real world, which I know is hard to adjust to, maybe it’s possible that people get drunk, get horny, and want to have sex, and then wake up the next day. Maybe they regret it, maybe they don’t. But classifying that scenario as rape- in the same way that someone who is black out drunk, doesn’t know what is happening, is not cognizant to make a decision, and wakes up with no idea what happened- is rape, is wild to me. People go out to have drinks and get laid all the time- both men and women. Following this logic rigidly just leads to the conclusion that people are constantly running around raping each other all the time. Completely idiotic.
No because most countries specifically only count it as rape if the Vintage Flag God Gifted Me Two Titles Big Paw And Veteran And I Rock Them Both Happy Birthday Fathers Day T-Shirt Additionally,I will love this victim was a woman. Welcome to earth, it’s fucked. This is the exact same reason I stopped watching switched at birth. Had an entire season long plot calling this guy a rapist because he had sex while drunk with a girl who was also drunk. Girl didn’t even think she was raped, she had to be convinced by her friends and family that she was raped. Definition of “actually, I change my mind now so that means you raped me” This poster is 17 years old. Yes it’s outdated. That miThis poster is 17 years old. Yes it’s outdated. That might be because it’s 17 years old. It’s almost old enough to consent itself There have also been studies that have identified drinking and appearing to drink more than they have as a predatory tactic used by rapists to have ‘plausible’ deniability regardless of the circumstances. One of the things I kept getting asked after my assault was whether my rapist had been drinking. Uh yeah, but unless he had put wine bottle corks in his ears to keep himself from hearing the many many times I was saying “no” and “stop”, drinking had nothing to do with what happened.

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