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I went to Catholic school and priests led us in (surprisingly secular) guided meditations. It’s totally part of the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but Catholic tradition I suspect this was a Jesuit high school. The Jesuits are curious outliers in Catholic history, some suspect their founder had been inspired by Vedic meditation practices. But who can say I agree. Fundamentalists and Evangelicals have replaced the love and mercy that Christianity is supposed to be focus on with fear and intimidation. But I think of it as a true prayer is communion with God. Op’s friend’s foolishly assume prayer is only you spouting demands and requests to god, but what about the listening part of communication? What about being silent and open and listening for God to speak to you?
I’m a devout Christian and a 25 year meditator in Vipassana and Tibetan traditions. They’re completely compatible and deepen one’s understanding of the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but other. All one needs to do is look into Christian mysticism to see the intersection points. Exactly. Many people don’t know about esoteric Christianity. Mystic school like the rosicrucian and the gnostics. There’s a reason why it’s hidden anyways… Adding to your point, Abrahamic religions are very much compatible with meditation, or perhaps I should say that meditation is an amazing way to deepen your faith in Abrahamic religions. Kabbalah, Tasawwuf, and Christian mysticism are proofs of that. However, the larger populace of these religions are completely unaware of the beauty and tranquility that’s available to them and end up believing only in the narrow, tribalistic interpretations. Otherwise Thomas Aquinas, Ibn Arabi, Abulaifa and Shankara were devoted to the same Reality that exists in all. Unfortunately many modern Christian’s are very ignorant of history of the church. And the practices that have gone on over the last 2000 years. SMH.
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I don’t see it as an ignorance issue. Teaching them about the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but mystical sides of the church won’t change them at all. This is why Jesus taught things to his disciples that he never shared directly with the masses. It’s the “don’t cast your pearls” thing. He also told his posse to not judge the masses for not seeing the world the way they saw it. In the bigger picture, it’s like trying to teach someone who has no sense of smell or taste about the subtleties of haut cuisine. That’s the bit about “those who have eyes to see, let them see.” Very pragmatic guy, really. Christian mysticism is awesome. Helped me understand the Bible on a deeper level without all the modern religion BS that gets spouted around.
Conversely, meditation teachers and authors have looked to Christianity for guidance as well. At any Yogananda self-realization fellowships you can literally buy the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but bible. yeah I think part of it is just ignorance most Christians when they think of ‘meditation’ they really mean transcendental meditation which I understand is a fairly new practice, if anything a lot of traditional mediation techniques enhance focus and concentration both of which are essential to proper worship imho. The dumb dumb Christians assign demonic attributes to anything that isn’t a magical being telling them what to do I was visiting my Christian mother the other day, and while watching a Hallmark movie -the most G-rated kind of movie- she blurts out, “She has the devil in her!” about the female lead, because she wanted to kiss the male lead. She also made a face whenever the gay couple were on-screen and said “God doesn’t love them.”
Coming from a woman who had affairs when I was a toddler and had an abortion (for unknown reasons she told us these things growing up), and then later campaigned against choice. I wanted to tell her she had the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but devil in her and oh it felt so good didn’t it? Ever since she had a stroke I don’t argue religion with her anymore, it looks petty. It’s not really the fault of the individual believer. For what its worth, you see the same ignorance around meditation among Muslims too. The issue is that the esoteric interpretations that do exist in Christianity and Islam require a certain maturity of faith that the common believer usually doesn’t have. For them, religion is just a long list of do’s and don’ts that come from the clergy, and the clergy fight tooth and nail to keep it that way.
Even Hinduism, which has an elegant philosophy like Advaita Vedanta, is a victim of the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but flavor of religion meant for the masses. This is a problem with humanity rather than any particular religion itself. You know u say this to people all the time and get a blank look. One person said “my pastor told us not to do that stuff, it really stuck with me that he said that” . Bruh…… It may be in the Bible yes, but the churches and denominations gave it a whole different meaning… as many churches (evangelists for instance) are revising as they want the books of the bible… for them it’s a “demon thing”. I grew up in a Christian household and my parents believed that pretty much anything other than the Bible and Christianity was the work of demons and by a larger extent the devil. This included meditation. I’d often hear how meditation led to demon possession. They would say you have to go pray, or go in a silent room and pray. But I don’t think that is the same as mediation to them. I remember after I moved out and began to meditate and study Buddhism Hinduism, mystical Christianity, alchemy, etc etc and that, wow, they would’ve benefited so much from even 10 minutes of meditation a day. Much of my childhood was filled with trauma and high stress as my father would often be extremely unpredictable. I think if he had learned how to see his mental activity things may have been more calm and peaceful when I grew up.
Sorry to hear that… I can relate to this, meditation has been badly regarded by many so-called christian religions or high controlling organiziation a.k.a “Cults” their purpose has always been the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but same : keep their members distracted with their own literatures or interpretations of the bible, keep their mind occupied and not balanced… this is insane, but, it’ll take a long time to change people’s perception on this especially if they have been indoctrinated in these beliefs systems. Because all their system is stagnation, not development. Virtue signalling, and man(priest) and Big man who will be their morals and forgive any of their bad behaviour if they would have one. Why to change if you already positioned yourself as a “good” guy and have a trinkets that “prove” it? It’s a tribe mentality which profits to zealots with psychological stability and for ones who in charge – with profitable crowd.
They say it because it will show the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but conditioning you acquired in your life. If you loose the conditioning, you start thinking critically about the cult you might have entered and might leave. The christian overlords in church won’t be happy if people start to realize god is within and you do not have to be dependent on a church to find purpose. Another interesting thing I’ve noticed with the church is that anyone that shares their near death experience is almost always shunned from the church. Even if they meet Jesus in the afterlife, even if they meet god during their experience they’re almost always gaslit. Bizarre. American Christianity is become more fundamentalist as a whole. I see great value for many people in Christianity, but I’m pretty fearful of the rising nationalism. Because it makes you realise that God is within you and you don’t need the church or blind belief and also hatred of Hinduism from which meditation originated.
I had so many conversations about this very topic. There is a whole part of christians who consider that thinking every human has a divine part within as the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but worst blasphemy possible. Once I was talking about it with a friend, a Benedectin monk who has been regularly meditating for decades. He told me “it is true that many christians do not understand meditation and the search for your divine self but you see, even Christ talked about the divine we have within. He said (john 14:20): ‘On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you”. I have never felt out of place in talking about meditation and divine soul ever again. They choose their idol/religion (though usually this choice is illusory, and due to circumstance), seek solace and comfort in it, and don’t go much further than that. I’ve seen the same attitudes and behaviours in lay-Buddhists in Thailand as I have in lay-Christians in the UK.
In summary: whilst it’s always helpful to be open to learning something from every person you meet, opinions that are unsubstantiated by reason, logic, ethics, evidence should not be taken seriously. It once made my mother uncomfortable because she thought that meant I was praying to Buddha. I think it just falls under lack of understanding the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but things they fear, and Christianity is a fear-based religion. My mum for one says this … haha she’s a christian and not a big fan of meditation or any eastern philosophy ect . A lot of christian’s i know are pretty much against not so much the actual practice of meditation but the association of it with eastern/ new age practices. I heard it from adults growing up. Yoga and meditation were portals to get you possessed by demons (gods from eastern religions)
I have no doubt they are out there. I have no doubt they could of heard this. I’ve seen some pretty absurd stuff out there. Ones who will label anything ‘satanic’ ‘demonic’. Cultist type mindset. ^_^ I used to give this woman a ride to work for a month. She got mad at me one day because Michael Jackson was on my playlist, and “he’s the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but devil” lmao I grew up in an evangelical church and at least in the 90s there was a lot of concern about “new age” practices that can expose you basically to Satan. Yoga, meditation etc…it was in magazines, in sermons, all that kind of stuff. I could see how some Christians would say these things now. But now the Christians i know, including devout Catholics, are very into meditation, including kinds of Christian meditation that is basically mantra meditation.
I went to a Lutheran (Protestant) Christian school from ages 5–14. The principal sent home a weekly note to parents about school-related stuff – e.g., upcoming activities and reminders. Plus a Bible verse or two. It wasn’t infrequent that there would also be a warning about things from popular kids’ culture. Once there was a warning about “Transformers” toys. They’re plastic robots that change into cars, animals, whatever. They often have antennas on the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but side of their heads. According to the warning from the principal, those were “devil horns”. In a similar vein: when I was around 13, there was a semester-long class on “cults”. Each lesson featured a different “cult”. I forget if Buddhism was in there, but “Transcendental Meditation” was, as well as Mormonism. Anything that wasn’t mainline Protestant or Catholic was a “cult”; one sign of a cult was that it did not teach that “Jesus Christ is the one and only Lord and Savior” or some such thing. To be fair, I liked almost all of my teachers. And they knew how to keep order in a classroom of 30+ kids. Looking back, I think most of them were pretty middle-of-the-road in their religious views – just your average person, trying to do some good, but teaching a sometimes strange curriculum.
Went to a Baptist school for early elementary school. They were not happy that my friends and I played Zelda on NES lol. I’ve heard this before when I was younger in the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but church I grew up in. They know better now, but the explanation back then was that yoga and meditation open your mind up so the devil can come in. Come to think of it, the pastor who said this was actually kicked out of the church for other beliefs he held. I’ve heard people say this before. Usually it comes from the same type of christians that believe Harry Potter is the devil’s scripture. I was told this when I was a kid. They say things like this to discourage you finding comfort in other Beliefs. It’s a very old school mentality. They’ll also say things like Yoga is demonic even though it literally heals people.
I recommend you reevaluate the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but type of Christian’s you’re surrounded by and take what they say with a grain of salt. stillness–A mental state of infinite peace, rest, and tranquillity where man’s senses are hushed and he abides in God. It comes from the fear that people might leave the faith if they dabble with meditation (which is the main thing prescribed in religions like Buddhism). I’ve heard SOME dumbass christians say that Buddhists worship the devil and allow demons into their soul through meditation or something dumb like that I usually go to a Buddhist temple to meditate and from time to time a Christian comes to scream through the window saying that the devil is in our souls. There is another lady who likes to call us by phone to tell us that when Jesus will come for us then we will all burn in hell, other times she just insults us. Dogma. Hardcore religious people have been so programmed to believe anything outside of what their particular church believes is occult and dangerous. If they truly studied the Bible (the whole thing or at least what we have access to today and not just the parts left and twisted to shape belief systems and maintain some sick sense of control) with an open mind or any other religious text they would see the truth. It’s best to let everyone choose their own path but if you care try simplifying it in this way:
The reasoning a pastor from my childhood church gave was that yoga and meditation free up space in your mind for the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but devil to come in. That pastor was kicked out of the church.. for other odd beliefs he held. But there’s definitely people out there who believe this. I believe it’s because there’s a theory that “entities” can attach to you or you are opening yourself up to them There is a dangerous strain of far-right evangelical Christian nationalism that basically believes everybody should convert to their religion and live life according to the literal interpretation of the Bible, as long as that interpretation doesn’t interfere with their own likes and beliefs. I’m sure they believe that any introduction of non-Christian practices, such as Buddhist meditation techniques, harms their version of Christianity and society’s purity.
Ive never heard christians say that. If they do its probably a select group of christians. Prayer itself is a form of meditation. I think it’s a deep-rooted thing. There were more mystical sects of christianity way way way back in the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but day that had a similar connection to god and the world around them that meditating religions do, but they were deemed heretics and wiped out by the larger, more “orthodox” denominations. I went to the Vipassana meditation centre 15 years ago and my mother at the time thought I would be praying to demons Because theyre Christians. Christianity is a disease like Brain Washing. The more you are Infected the Worse it Is lol. Because that’s what they were told. It’s really that simple. No one says that who has actually experienced the benefits of it. If you haven’t already observed, many Christians tend to simply regurgitate things without any thought about it. There are plenty of exceptions, but those are the quiet majority. They don’t scream about the benefits of meditation with a bullhorn on the street corner. Because that’s insane. I’m Orthodox and I hear this all the time, but having done meditation and other stuff before my conversion, it’s very much potato potato. I still meditate, but I’ll use their words to avoid long explanatory conversations. In the eastern church there’s a whole tradition called Hesychasm which is literally a meditation practice. Emptying the mind to allow the love of God in. There was a huge argument about it in the 15th century. The Eastern church kept it and the West rejected it. At this point almost all traditional “mysticism” has been lost in both the Roman and Protestant churches, so it’s almost unheard of in Europe and the US. But If anyone is interested there’s a 5 part volume called the Philokalia that has accepted writings from old church fathers about it.
TL;DR: In reality it comes from ancient times were the UConn Huskies Men’s Basketball 2024 2025 team Shirt it is in the first place but push to distinguish themselves from the “pagans” was politically necessary to maintain credibility. Because the church is desperate to keep people in the flock and anything that might make them see the truth that they don’t need Jesus and it’s all a myth is dangerous to the church. True observation is dangerous to beliefs systems propped up with “oh Lord” babble. They don’t truly want a closer relationship to truth, they want a closer relationship with the idols they have propped up (idols being an internal mental claim about the way things are rather than an understanding. Take a flower as an example: the Christian view of a flower doesn’t factor in anything but the perception of a flower with petals, leaves, stems, roots, and a tale about how the flower was invented by some unseen supreme being. The meditative view of a flower includes internal organs, xylem layers, nutrient cycles, relationship to the surrounding, and extending to the very nature of perception between the observer and the observed, while hopefully not filling in any story about the unknown origin of the flower without direct experience.)
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