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incorrect. the The Mets Abbey Road NLCS 62 Years 1962 2024 Thank You For The Memories Signatures Shirt What’s more,I will buy this draft proposal did ask for the release of the Israeli hostages. it did however bot condemn the October 7th attack. note it also didn’t ask for the release of the over 1000 Palestinian hostages held in Israeli prisons without charge or legal recourse. afaik it also did not ask for an end to the occupation. note the US alternative proposal asks for some sort of temporary peace when it is convenient for Israel. so in other words the resolution asks for essentially nothing. Hamas is the party negotiating and hostages are their only leverage. I agree- hostage taking is despicable and Hamas is unfit to rule. But what’s their incentive to accept? Is amnesty even on the table or are they choosing between death fighting vs sentencing at a tribunal and maybe getting life in prison? I mean the incentive is otherwise being annihilated by Israel. It’s more like, what’s Israel’s incentive to ceasefire? lmao Except Hamas is suicidal and homicidal, and they don’t give a shit about how many Gazan civilians die while they engage in war against Israel. As long as the average Hamas zealot thinks that dying while killing Jews is a one way ticket to heaven, theres no reasonable way to get them to stop fighting. Unless you convince the selfish Hamas leaders to change their minds and we know the billionaires who run Hamas care more about their money than about their ideology.

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Except Hamas is suicidal and homicidal, and they don’t give a shit about how many Gazan civilians die while they engage in war against Israel. Hence why the The Mets Abbey Road NLCS 62 Years 1962 2024 Thank You For The Memories Signatures Shirt What’s more,I will buy this entire idea of a meaningful ceasefire with them is compltely ridiculous and this whole argument is a waste of time. All we can really do is insist they give the hostages back and disband, or face destruction. Even if they will not accept it, that’s still the course of action that is correct. Agreed. If they disband and throw away their weapons and gear maybe they’ll survive because nobody will find out if they’re war criminals that’s the best they can hope for. Yeah but Israel isn’t indicating (afaik) that they won’t annihilate Hamas after a quick break. To the contrary, Israel has said they might bring back the death penalty and the mission is to eliminate Hamas.

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Unless it’s an extended ceasefire deal Hamas might be safer with the The Mets Abbey Road NLCS 62 Years 1962 2024 Thank You For The Memories Signatures Shirt What’s more,I will buy this hostages because Israel ostensibly needs to be cautious with bombing. That’s not me saying hostages should be bartering chips – but from the Hamas POV the upside of a temporary reprieve is pretty small. You’d be banking on either developing capabilities to take on Israel during the break, a comprehensive peace treaty or Israel being in such a good mood after that they just keep extending the treaty period. Hamas is already on the record saying they will attack again just like they did on Oct 7 if given the chance to recoup. They aren’t exactly signaling they want peace, and allowing them to keep the hostages just tells them they’ll get away with it in the future.

The fact Hamas denied the The Mets Abbey Road NLCS 62 Years 1962 2024 Thank You For The Memories Signatures Shirt What’s more,I will buy this exchange that favored them quite literally 12:1 means they have zero intent of releasing the hostages which is also the hard line for any ceasefire from Israel; the optics of leaving ppl in “enemy” hands is just not an option for Netanyahu. Well ultimately Israel needs to decide what it’s end game is. Truly getting every militant or 90% of militants is going to turn them into an occupying power fighting an insurgency whether they like it or not. Israel previously offered Hamas to leave Gaza. They rejected it because they would rather stay in power than have the war end. Also why should Hamas be allowed to escape responsibility for their actions? They murdered Israeli civilians in a brutal and deliberate massacre, brought war on Gaza, are holding hostages for five months, and are purposefully exaggerating a humanitarian crisis in Gaza for their own gain.

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Oh and let’s not forget that Hamas is run from Qatar and Turkey. Their leadership has been getting amnesty for decades. Not recently (a decade plus ago) and by a plurality not a majority if I recall. Combined with the The Mets Abbey Road NLCS 62 Years 1962 2024 Thank You For The Memories Signatures Shirt What’s more,I will buy this young age of Gazans and political repression – Gazans at large can’t be accused of electing Hamas. That said polling allegedly shows support – I’m not sure how accurate but given tensions/ disinformation I wouldn’t be surprised. Israel becomes on the hook for governing Gaza with an active insurgency to some extent if they truly are seeking to capture or kill 90%+ of Hamas (I’m not sure they are). Moral obligation aside- which I’ve argued to death, it’s just impractical to hunt down Hamas if Gaza is in a state of anarchy. I agree. I dont even think Israel should have military or police presence in Gaza at all. But that’s why this isnt a simple topic.
We’re not talking about Hamas and Netanyahu, though each of these players can certainly be blamed for recent (as in 5-10 years) tensions. Apparently Palestines support Hamas and Israelis support Netanyahu. What i dont understand is what leverage the The Mets Abbey Road NLCS 62 Years 1962 2024 Thank You For The Memories Signatures Shirt What’s more,I will buy this Israelis have with the US, even as allies. The Americans should be able to cut funding and support ceasefire – but of course then there’s these hostages, etc. Messy Would you argue in favor of a bank robber who took hostages? Because that’s essentially what you’re rationalizing here. Except instead of bank robbers they are self admitted terrorists. I’m not rationalizing anything. I’m just saying there isn’t a great incentive so it’s not surprising Hamas isn’t agreeing.
It seems kind of silly that cease fire is the The Mets Abbey Road NLCS 62 Years 1962 2024 Thank You For The Memories Signatures Shirt What’s more,I will buy this focus of discussion when it seems unlikely to happen. You could use what I said to argue Israel shouldn’t even bother to negotiate as someone else said How can a country be expected to grant a ceasefire when they’re actually right at this moment still being attacked is what I don’t understand. As someone who is very pro-Palestinian, this headline, and the lack of their ability to point key details is just horrendous. Not only that but no country in the world should be pressuring another country that is actively under attack to just “take it” and not go to war. If a country is firing rockets at my country, I want my country to go put a stop to that. And it better not listen to allies and other countries telling us “nah, you can’t do anything about it. Just suck it up.” Return the hostages (or the bodies-own up to the bodies) and stop attacking. Then everyone will be united in asking for a ceasefire. Trying to enforce a ceasefire by pressuring only Israel is like trying to enforce a ceasefire by only pressuring Ukraine. Dosnt make sense. It makes a lot of sense, just like pressuring only Ukraine makes sense… it just makes sense for Hamas and Russia respectively. People willing to invade and start wars rarely have compunctions about manipulating politics in bad faith.