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Except Hamas is suicidal and homicidal, and they don’t give a shit about how many Gazan civilians die while they engage in war against Israel. Hence why the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt so you should to go to store and get this entire idea of a meaningful ceasefire with them is compltely ridiculous and this whole argument is a waste of time. All we can really do is insist they give the hostages back and disband, or face destruction. Even if they will not accept it, that’s still the course of action that is correct. Agreed. If they disband and throw away their weapons and gear maybe they’ll survive because nobody will find out if they’re war criminals that’s the best they can hope for. Yeah but Israel isn’t indicating (afaik) that they won’t annihilate Hamas after a quick break. To the contrary, Israel has said they might bring back the death penalty and the mission is to eliminate Hamas.

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Unless it’s an extended ceasefire deal Hamas might be safer with the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt moreover I will buy this hostages because Israel ostensibly needs to be cautious with bombing. That’s not me saying hostages should be bartering chips – but from the Hamas POV the upside of a temporary reprieve is pretty small. You’d be banking on either developing capabilities to take on Israel during the break, a comprehensive peace treaty or Israel being in such a good mood after that they just keep extending the treaty period. Hamas is already on the record saying they will attack again just like they did on Oct 7 if given the chance to recoup. They aren’t exactly signaling they want peace, and allowing them to keep the hostages just tells them they’ll get away with it in the future.
The fact Hamas denied the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt moreover I will buy this exchange that favored them quite literally 12:1 means they have zero intent of releasing the hostages which is also the hard line for any ceasefire from Israel; the optics of leaving ppl in “enemy” hands is just not an option for Netanyahu. Well ultimately Israel needs to decide what it’s end game is. Truly getting every militant or 90% of militants is going to turn them into an occupying power fighting an insurgency whether they like it or not. Israel previously offered Hamas to leave Gaza. They rejected it because they would rather stay in power than have the war end. Also why should Hamas be allowed to escape responsibility for their actions? They murdered Israeli civilians in a brutal and deliberate massacre, brought war on Gaza, are holding hostages for five months, and are purposefully exaggerating a humanitarian crisis in Gaza for their own gain.
Oh and let’s not forget that Hamas is run from Qatar and Turkey. Their leadership has been getting amnesty for decades. Not recently (a decade plus ago) and by a plurality not a majority if I recall. Combined with the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt moreover I will buy this young age of Gazans and political repression – Gazans at large can’t be accused of electing Hamas. That said polling allegedly shows support – I’m not sure how accurate but given tensions/ disinformation I wouldn’t be surprised. Israel becomes on the hook for governing Gaza with an active insurgency to some extent if they truly are seeking to capture or kill 90%+ of Hamas (I’m not sure they are). Moral obligation aside- which I’ve argued to death, it’s just impractical to hunt down Hamas if Gaza is in a state of anarchy. I agree. I dont even think Israel should have military or police presence in Gaza at all. But that’s why this isnt a simple topic.
We’re not talking about Hamas and Netanyahu, though each of these players can certainly be blamed for recent (as in 5-10 years) tensions. Apparently Palestines support Hamas and Israelis support Netanyahu. What i dont understand is what leverage the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt moreover I will buy this Israelis have with the US, even as allies. The Americans should be able to cut funding and support ceasefire – but of course then there’s these hostages, etc. Messy Would you argue in favor of a bank robber who took hostages? Because that’s essentially what you’re rationalizing here. Except instead of bank robbers they are self admitted terrorists. I’m not rationalizing anything. I’m just saying there isn’t a great incentive so it’s not surprising Hamas isn’t agreeing.
It seems kind of silly that cease fire is the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt moreover I will buy this focus of discussion when it seems unlikely to happen. You could use what I said to argue Israel shouldn’t even bother to negotiate as someone else said How can a country be expected to grant a ceasefire when they’re actually right at this moment still being attacked is what I don’t understand. As someone who is very pro-Palestinian, this headline, and the lack of their ability to point key details is just horrendous. Not only that but no country in the world should be pressuring another country that is actively under attack to just “take it” and not go to war. If a country is firing rockets at my country, I want my country to go put a stop to that. And it better not listen to allies and other countries telling us “nah, you can’t do anything about it. Just suck it up.” Return the hostages (or the bodies-own up to the bodies) and stop attacking. Then everyone will be united in asking for a ceasefire. Trying to enforce a ceasefire by pressuring only Israel is like trying to enforce a ceasefire by only pressuring Ukraine. Dosnt make sense. It makes a lot of sense, just like pressuring only Ukraine makes sense… it just makes sense for Hamas and Russia respectively. People willing to invade and start wars rarely have compunctions about manipulating politics in bad faith.
A cease fire without the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt moreover I will buy this release of hostages isn’t worth the paper it’s written on and I wish more people realized this. Look, I want hostilities to stop in this horrid situation, but as a citizen of any developed nation it is your nations responsibility to maintain your security, and if you are taken hostage by a foreign power your nation cannot simply allow that to happen and not fight to return yo home. I can think of no instance in history where this has happened. Just a reminder, there was a ceasefire in place up until October 7 of last year. Hamas will break every ceasefire they agree to. Ceasefires are by nature temporary and that’s the problem. If we want something more permanent we need Hamas to lay down arms and formally end their war with Israel. I mean hell, even a cash for arms program would make sense if you consider the money saved in the long run by not having to pay for another war against terrorism. Between occasions raids into Gaza & the West Bank + airstrikes the Palestinians people haven’t exactly had a ceasefire from the IDF or paramilitary settler groups.
There were no raids or air strikes on the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt moreover I will buy this strip for months during the ceasefire. That means no dead Palestinians. Hell, there was no Israeli presence in the strip at all, so I wonder how you define occupation. I had this thought recently that why aren’t the hostages being returned part of these calls for a ceasefire? My only thought is that people supporting the ceasefire without hostage return seem to view using hostages…including children and infants, as a legitimate leverage for peace negotiations. …that is insane to me. Yes Israel is going too far and we should push them to be more exacting, but to be implicitly okay with keeping hostages as a condition of a ceasefire is insane. I’d love to see this disaster end but if they still can’t say those things in public, it’s hard to imagine any kind of meaningful ceasefire.
Release the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt moreover I will buy this hostages and lay down your weapons, then we can discuss a ceasefire. Hamas started this war. Anything other than releasing the hostages allows Hamas terrorists to win. Everyone pointing out hostage release like that mattered. Israel themselves doesn’t give a damn about the hostages. Their leaders have made it quite clear their objective isn’t the hostages, but the outright destruction of Gaza. Pointing out the veto because of hostages is another issue. We’re talking about halting the death and destruction. To defend the veto to that is insane An unconditional ceasefire would be incredibly stupid and counterproductive. What do they think happens next? Hamas has a chance to rearm and attack Israeli civilians again, then Israel retaliates even worse. Doesn’t help anyone but Hamas. To have any reasonable hope of a LASTING ceasefire or peace proposal, the hostages must be returned and Hamas must be removed from power. At that point, Israel will need to stand down and make peace with non-terrorist Palestinian leaders.
You’re not going to get a ceasefire with Hamas where Hamas agrees to cease existing anymore than one where Israel agreed likewise. Neither side intends for any peace to be permanent, they are existential threats to each other. This conflict only ends when one or the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt moreover I will buy this other ceases to exist, but neither has the military means to do that by themselves. This whole war is ridiculous: Israel can’t kill Hamas outright because Hamas is run out of Qatar; removing Hamas from Gaza would be a short-term solution at best, but also a horrifically, catastrophically bloody one which will ensure Gaza remains a staging ground for anti-Israel terror for generations. Israel cannot achieve any strategic victory here. At least not one that leaves Palestinians alive in Gaza.
We are involved… we might not have boots on the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt moreover I will buy this ground but they have american hostages and it involves allied nations. the sad truth is that a Ceasefire will just prolong the war and increase casualties. You’re dealing with an entrenched militia force that doesn’t want to give up power nor negotiate in good faith. They’re basically like those narco-terrorist cartels in Mexico and Central America. Hamas has little to no desire to evolve into a true political party of a representative democracy. At most you could remake them into a junta if a strongman dictator swept in and killed off all his rivals for power. It’s crazy seeing people in these comments blatantly lying and getting thousands of upvotes. It was Israel that rejected a ceasefire in exchange for hostages. It’s clear from this response that the lives of the hostages are not what matter most – they are nothing more than an excuse used to facilitate the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. 167 more repliesI am not proud to be an American. I just cannot believe we’re supporting this. The Israeli people should be ashamed of themselves.
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Not voting for Biden is the The legion USC Trojans logo Shirt moreover I will buy this equivalent of voting for Trump when the election can and will be as close as a few thousand votes This means they will not be required to release any hostages. They can simply rape and kill them at will and everyone will have to stand by while it happens. How many hostages have been located and rescued/ recovered( not released) . I’m fairly certain you can’t rescue them with bombs?edit: not taking sides here I’m trying to apply logic to the news that is on my feed? I can never believe the first take anymore. Right on!! If Israel is willing to bomb Gaza just because its military invaded Israel to rape, murder, and kidnap hundreds of people, then all of us are in danger!!
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