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If god wanted those embryos to live, the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and glass would have broken and babies would be fully formed and ready to attend church. Yes, if you’re an IVF Dr., time to move out of Alabama. Sorry to Alabama couples struggling with infertility, this is what you have voted for. Wait…. forgive my ignorance on biology…since that’s what Republicans use to demonize trans-people, but isn’t an embryo HALF of a human? Like the egg, the part a woman provides? A Zygote is, I believe is a full human (having the female and the male half both provided for)? I am genuinely curious how not being allowed to murder children is an infringement of a right. And how it is logical to allow it. I dont agree with the ruling, but theres nothing illogical about this.. Also, yeah, fuck your freedom to kill people. Address the argument, rather than reddit circle jerks. Argue that embryos shouldnt be considered children The US government can put you in jail for destroying a bald eagles egg. If it’s not an eagle yet, why do they protect an eagles egg? Eagles are endangered. There are billions of humans. Eagles don’t have medicine and worldwide communication. Humans have medicine and worldwide communication I have a question.. when people are filing murder case on the govt employee who accidentally kills a dog or cat while neutering it .. why should not we treat Embryos as an organism with Life …?

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Well….a dog, or cat is alive, a embryo doesn’t even have basic thinking skills. It’s literly pre human, plus dogs, and cats can feel pain, and emotions, an embryo physically cannot. It’s like asking why can we cook a live egg, and not a live chicken in a pan, it just dont coorolate. Your OPINION doesn’t equate to LOGIC. I love how you baby killing libbies and progs lecture to the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and world about your twisted belief systems as fact, when they’re just opinions like anyone else’s… I love how your right wing morons are okay with gun laws that are the leading cause of actual child death in this nation, but then get your panties in a wad over fucking embryos. You’re like arguing with a pigeon. Embryos aren’t babies. You can’t freeze babies, right? Try using logic even though it appears the SCOTUS of Alabama has no idea how to.
387 more replies96% of biologists agree that life begins at conception, so yeah it is a child, but it does seem a lil far fetched I don’t think the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and person should be charged with that but definitely charged with something as that is still biological matter that has been intentionally preserved for later use. It’s like them dropping a kidney you donated. Still malpractice Nobody is being charged. The case was whether the couple could sue for wrongful death. The Alabama SC said yes. They’re gonna get some medieval on that patient’s ass! Medieval fucking logic from the dark ages when people were dangerously stupid (okay not all, some were just dumb as fuck). “wandering [..] patient dropped [..] embryos” – I’m not on board with the “embryos are children”-angle at all, not even a little bit, but if this hospital had some wandering patient getting a hold of and dropping these embryos, I can see why they’re getting sued… I feel like when you sign up to have your embryos frozen and stored in a facility, it kind of goes without saying that the facility may, at some point, fuck up and lose them. Like I’m sure you probably sign a waiver that says exactly that This sounds like a clear negligence suit, but maybe the plaintiffs want to get more damages. Wrongful death is likely to have a higher payout than negligence, but it sounds like this couple has a case either way. So, did they get child support for those frozen embryos? Can I put a frozen embryo in my car and use a carpool lane? Can a frozen embryo be sent to school if its been frozen for 9 years?

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Conservatives seem to think it’s no later than before life begins, but not after committing a crime, and primarily for white people. Sweet home alabama, where frozen embryos are considered children, sweet home alabama, lord i’m coming home to you I really want to file a suit against a republican who masturbated. Clearly, that’s millions and millions of children, lost. And in next week’s news, condoms are banned. Well, maybe not next week but they’re going to work on that pretty soon. They’re already trying to ban birth control. I wonder, can you have frozen embryos, never actually „use“ them and receive child support, benefits etc forever? On the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and other hand, how can companies force them into child labour? Well, now the other side who want a baby and can’t have one are gonna be up the creek. Who wants to store the lives of hundreds of “living” things that can “die” at any minute. At the rate they are going over that side of the pond they will be arresting people for murder after giving a BJ Teenage boys jerking off should be classified as genocide. Millions of potential children dying in a dirty sock underneath these monsters beds every day. What a tragedy! Every sperm is sacred!
If they’re going to start charging people for that they might as well charge every man that masturbates, which is pretty much every single man in the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and world, this is getting ridiculous A “wandering patient”?? How on earth did a patient gain access to frozen embryos? That is a huge problem in itself. Wrongful death implies there is a death. Meaning there is a heartbeat to stop. These are frozen embryos. There is no heartbeat. I would understand just return of money spent because that is a lot of money but seriously there is no justification for wrongful death. I don’t know they should be able to sue for something. What if they’re unable to make another one because they got irreversible procedures or something. Holy shit.. healthcare in red states is going to hell more quickly than anyone thought. No clinic is going to offer any reproductive services there anymore. The Supreme Court should not exist and shit like this proves it. They’re like the ATF, unneeded and a waste of money. TBH we have no choice but to collect every sperm and every egg and ensure they are all matched equally to preserve God’s rightful place as the all powerful, ever present, omniscient being who can’t do anything without us/s
The logic is perfect! Because abortion is NOT God’s will. Using science to freeze embryos is ABSOLUTELY God’s will though… Ok unpopular opinion. (I am not anti-choice) but i think this is okay. I think killing a cell someone intends to turn into a human is pretty bad. Like obviously it still doesn’t have consciousness, but i think the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and intent matters. Same as if someone forced a woman to abort by putting something in her drink, the fact she was going to create a life and intended to care for it gives it additional value. They are heading towards making masturbation illegal. That is definitely against the conservatives self-interest. There is actually a bible verse for this exact situation of killing embryos or fetuses of other people by for example pushing the bearer, making them fall and causing a miscarriage. It says this is property damage and the perpatrator has to pay a fine to the parents. If you ever wanna debate Christian fundies about abortion, look up that passage beforehand. It’s Exodus 21:22-25.
I don’t agree with calling embryos children, but I can absolutely agree that someone should be sued for the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and destruction of the embryos. I get the point that it shouldn’t be considered murder but embryos are a growing human. I actually have a child from a frozen embryo. It’s a wild and amazing thing that this can be done. If someone did that to one of my embryos I would sue them to no end because that is my child. Just because it’s frozen doesn’t mean that it won’t ever be my child. I can understand the logic, as if this were the only way they had for biological children, for whatever reason, such as cancer, or any other problem, this was their only chance any it is gone. Dear coredditors, I would like to express my support for the rights of skin cells. Many people don’t know but it is entirely possible, through very simple cloning methods, for a perfectly normal human being to emerge from a skin cell.
Upvote this comment if you support the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and rights of skin cells and would like to live in a world where thoughtlessly scratching your skin and MURDERING THOUSANDS of children is punishable by law! We’re finally getting to the pro-life logical conclusion. Soon the right will be advocating for labor camps for those caught fapping. Masturbating will soon be genocide As a European I was talking to here said, America is one of the least free countries in the world in spite of casting itself as the “freedom country”. The only real freedom here is to be an insufferable right wing Christofascist asshole, those people never see any recrimination or consequences. Freedom to control your own body? Nah. Freedom to be of a different sexual orientation? Not really. Freedom to die in a school shooting due to someone’s “freedom” to bear arms? Oh definitely. I always thought, judges were supposed to hold up, and interpret established law, and not issue rulings based on their personal beliefs. I guess our courts being destroyed and turned into committees who observe sketchy religious practices and rule based on them, is what we’re doing now?
There is logic here. It is just that applying it would make things so complicate that The entire system will probably not survive. If we grant person to frozen fertilized embryos, we would probably not be able to use IVF at all. If a woman can’t get pregnant on her own and has to have her egg cells removed,and those cells one way or another are ruined or destroyed,she should have a right to some form of compensation because that just ruined her having any chance of biological children But they’re just that,cells,saying it’s children is way to excessive and suing a guy because he what,knocked over a tray on accident?,itd be more like destruction of property Is that news legit, though? I mean, I can see a lab mishandling IVF speciments to receive a lawsuit for sure, but as an accident/mistake level, like, say, the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and McDonalds employee dropping ultra hot coffee on a lady’s lap.
Considering it a criminal offense or even bringing up whether or not they were living children is pure nonsense even for pro-life shitfucks I guess that means I can now use the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and parent and child parking bays because I have thousands of “children ” inside my ovaries. I’ll bear that in mind, thanks. Oh and I better get off the pill too because that’s stopping me ovulating and denying all those “children” a chance to starve to death because their “mother’s” too sick and poor to provide for them. Every egg should become a child so I suppose if I ovulate but refuse to have sex that makes me a murderer? Think of all the children dying slowly in crusty socks and tissues! Or stuck in use condoms. Or swimming around near the tonsils. Genocide, clearly. Rank stupidity, and unfortunately its just two steps away from us now. Look, I don’t see frozen embryos as human being yet. However, having gone through IVF to have children, it is so hard on the woman’s body and phenomenally expensive. You often only get one shot at it. These people should be able to sue the bejesus out of the hospital that accidentally undone their embryos whether they are considered people or not.
Tomatoes (and ketchup) are vegetables. Corporations are people. 500,000 people in Wyoming can decide what the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and 40,000,000 people in California can do. I can’t wait until they count unfertilized eggs as kids as well. I can already picture courts going with “Sir, you have been found guilty of the murder of one adult and 200 children.” If you could save one child and 100 children would die, or you could save 100 children and one child would die, which would you choose? Unless the intent is to be edgy or contrarian, most people would save 100, right? So let’s say you could save one child and 100 frozen embryos would die or save 100 frozen embryos and the child would die, which would you save? Probably the child, right?
I’m trying to think of a good resolution to this case and I’m stumped. It would be bad if the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and affected couples had no recourse, considering the material costs and personal difficulty of having eggs extracted for in vitro fertilization. But using a civil property damage tort could be setting some kind of legal precedent that embryos are property with a specific monetary value. Maybe the hospital should be forced to cover the costs of further in vitro fertilization for the couples? But what it one or more of the affected people are sterile now, and have lost their only chance to have kids over this? Yeah it sets a bad precident but honestly if that patient wasn’t a child then they’re a colossal fucking moron that needs to pay restitution.
I think it’s because of intent. I mean yeah a fetus isn’t a child but a pregnant person will obviously consider it a child because they intend to bring it to term. So I can absolutely see deciding frozen embryos are legally considered children since the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and intent was for them to be brought to term. Same reason you can get charged with double homicide for murdering a pregnant person. Ok, but logically, you could argue that they are humans and deserve human rights. How is this illogical? The “Freedom” to choose to murder your child is evil and a self-serving excuse. Why should your “Freedom” trump the right to life of another human? I don’t see how this is illogical or anti-freedom. If I understand this properly, this isn’t like the abortion issue where a person’s bodily autonomy is on the line. Frozen embryos are, in fact, living beings and clearly distinct from another being. All living things have a right to life, with the “strength” of that right being determined by the level of “sapience” (maybe not the exact word for this concept). So things like fetuses and parasites don’t have the strength of a right to life to overcome the right to bodily autonomy that a more developed person has.
But here, what rights are there to weigh against the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and embryo’s right to life? Is freezing them even ethical? I’m not saying it necessarily isn’t, but there certainly seems to be room for debate. Can’t wait for this appeal. I understand judges can’t know everything about everything but who are they consulting? God I hope the women are tired of this shit and show up en masse to give the dems the house, senate and pres in 2024 so we can just pass federal abortion laws to enshrine Roe V Wade into law. You would think Alabama would have a lot more to worry about considering how low they’re ranked in just about everything. Okay after reading the actual ruling, that trial court was all kinds of fucked up on these parents! The parents sued for the following reasons: In Negligence/Wantoness, the court ruled that Alabama’s precedent of not getting compensation for damage to HUMAN LIFE and thus making this claim also ineligible. For Emotional Distress, the court ruled that Alabama’s precedent of compensation only applies to plaintiffs that had Emotional Distress due to physical injury and thus making this claim ineligible. This means that the court decided the embryos were apparently schrodinger’s cat to be both alive and not alive simultaneously, and that only one of the three affected families deserved any compensation whatsoever. All three families appealed the decision.
The Alabama Supreme Court read the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and Wrongful Death of a Minor Act and saw it made no mention of whether that child must be born, unborn, inuterine, or extrauterine. Seeing as there is a precedent in Alabama before this case that the WDoaM Act does apply to the unborn, the Supreme Court of Alabama ruled in favor of the plaintiffs expanding on the current precedent to include both inuterine and extrauterine children. Just as a note, unlawful disposal of embryos is illegal in most places already. Negligence causing said death is also illegal in most places already. So the title of “fuck logic and freedom” is EXACTLY what the trial court did and what Alabama’s Supreme Court overturned. Next time, read past the fucking headline and don’t get your news from huffington post.
I get the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and point of the post. But to a mother that is struggling to get pregnant, those embryos practically are children. Conservative logic only when it’s convenient, Texas is fighting a lawsuit where they willfully declare a fetus is not a person Welp, it shouldn’t be long until Alabama decides to collect nocturnal emissions. Every sperm is sacred, after all. As someone who is considering IVF it is kind of a big deal because the female in this situation has to take injections of hormones to make extra eggs and if the male has a fertility issue he might not have many swimmers to help make a viable embryo. Not saying anyone should go to jail at all but a couple that has this happen should not have to spend a single penny to fix this. The clinic has to foot the bill and everything should be ok.
Sperm? It’ll freeze solid no issues – but eggs not so much. So eggs are often fertilized when stored …then disposed in mass when no longer needed. Good luck walking the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and line in this one SCOTUS. So what do we do with all the frozen embryos going forward? Do we need donors to pay for their preservation in perpetuity? Okay I’m claiming my millions of embryos in my uterus as tax written off children then. IRS gonna have a field day with this Am I gonna go to prison for allowing myself to get a period now? Or do I need to get knocked up each time I ovulate? Jfc They aren’t children any more that sperm or eggs or even a fertilized egg is. Until a fertilized egg successfully implants in the uterine wall and the host’s body starts changing and producing HGC there is no pregnancy. All you have is cells with potential. The facepalm in this one is a bit tricky, while I do agree the embryos aren’t children at that stage, the couple should be allowed to sue, the catch is if they can’t sue for wrongful death, their case would be for “property damage” which would have been very small and would have benefited the medical facility that could’ve ruined their only chance at having kids…. This seems like the judge was trying to get the couples who lost their embryos compensation. It costs 10s of thousands of dollars to get your eggs frozen. I don’t think this had anything to do with politics. I could be wrong, it is Alabama. Ok, it’s stupid to classify them as children, but also they absolutely should be able to sue for this? They presumably paid the hospital to freeze the embryos and presumably did so for actual reasons (such as an impending risk of infertility), not just because they wanted to eat it in a week. Can you not sue if eggs you had frozen are destroyed then?
Supreme Court of Inbreds broke the Oakland Ballers Connor Sullivan Appearing At Fans Fest March 1st 1640 18th Street Fans Fest 2025 Shirt and by the same token and Law! Freedom demands their prosecution and removal from the Court by force. The are to stupid to understand basic biology.

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