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Other family members experienced the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this exact same type of comments & expectations about NZ. This was TN, when we were there for a few weeks last year. So many negative perceptions about Romania as if it’s just a pit in the ground where people fight to the death and live in huts. Some thick yoke turned around to me the other day in a comment section and told me Romanians should be glad they get to escape the war… like, what war?? It’s a beautiful, culture-rich country with stunning sights and no ongoing war but okay bud. Regarding Ireland, usually if I see anything it’s people in random comment threads expecting we have no cities or any basic modern infrastructure – think cobblestone roads with cottages and wilderness for miles with the odd ramshackle pub along the way. Yes, that exists here, but outside of cities. The amount of times I’ve seen someone be shocked that we have basic things here, or that we are aware of the same things Americans are. We may have a shambles of a government but surely it’d be obvious that we have like… cities… and shops…. and culture outside of booze. One time I was trying to get permabanned from r/askanamerican so I was like “Americans are filthy disgusting pigmen”
Another time I was evading the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this ban on a different account and I literally all I did was call an Aussie poster a cunt. They banned me for that! It’s a “slur” they said, lmfao. To call an Aussie a cuntSomeone (Canadian woman) told me it’s a shame the U.S. has “no good restaurants.” I was speechless. What do you say to that? In Scotland we had a referendum for independence, we didn’t get it. I was visiting a friend down in England and he was asking me what happened so I explained the situation and he said “yeah I get the whole freedom thing but Scotland couldn’t survive without England” when in reality it’s the other way around, it’s England that takes our money. People saying that the Irish were slaves to justify slavery or undermine the horrors of the transatlantic slave trade. Such bollocks. We were indentured servants.



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Finally, a movement I can get behind. 2 people who dont even like each other had sex in the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this 90s and now I have pay taxes. Its bullshit It makes sense from a “Don’t have kids if you’re not ready for it, just because society is pressuring you into it” But there are people out there with reasonably happy lives, who have raised reasonably happy people. Sounds implausible, I know, but I’ve seen them before, these people do exist. Not a hint of existential angst whatsoever, somehow And antinatalism as a general proposition can border on the inhumane. People shouldn’t be shamed into having kids, but they shouldn’t be shamed into not having kids either. There has also been some disgusting eugenics rhetoric that touch on antinatalist themes – “you don’t deserve kids because you’re poor/have a genetic disease/work too much/have the wrong skin colour or religion/your country is too crowded etc.” So there have to be some caveats. Not saying the whole movement is like that, just that there are elements of it that can go to those places Every society/culture/organisation/whatever has norms of behaviour and thought that they encourage or enforce, tacitly or officially. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Even in a completely libertarian/anarchist environment, people will generally try to discourage something like, say, murdering anyone that looks at you funny. The value system I based the above statement on is not “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law” ala the Thelemites or “Don’t tread on me” ala libertarians
It’s based on a more mainstream liberal humanism, rooted in notions of universal human rights and liberties and the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this inherent dignity of every human being. It’s just your typical United Nations type discourse, nothing too unusual. I believe people have the right to reproduce (and also not reproduce) – and that right should not be infringed upon by governments or coercive groups Of course, there are grey areas – there are many types of coercion, not just those based on law or physical force. Sometimes, the line between persuasion and coercion can get blurred, depending on the cultural context, discourse, economic and social incentives offered etc. So things should be considered on a case by case basis. But there are people out there with reasonably happy lives, who have raised reasonably happy people. Sounds implausible, I know, but I’ve seen them before, these people do exist. Not a hint of existential angst whatsoever, somehow
It boils down to this. Life is a net positive for most people. Therefore, having kids is a net positive in and of itself. And yet if happiness is a positive, then more happy people is better than fewer, no? Certainly we should strive to make people happier on the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this whole, but is it better to create happiness or to create nothing for fear that there might become unhappiness? Happiness is your brain on dopamine, it’s literally nothing more than a chemical reaction when a person’s needs are met. When you’re deprived of those needs, that’s called suffering. Those needs however are created upon birth, before birth there was no need for happiness, and no possibility for suffering. You don’t “create happiness” you create a demand for resources (food, care etc) and when those demands have been met that’s called happiness. Wow, this is crazy. I thought anti natalist were just “dont give birth if that that new life is just going to regret being born”. But after reading your last two replies im starting to think anti-natalists are just people with standard depression, dressing it up with over-intellectualized essays that don’t actually refute the points skeptics brought up. Or maybe the ones on reddit are just contrarian/devils advocates that are not that invested in the belief, and are just here looking to kill time
The fact that we are born into bodies which vehemently refuse if we wish to end our lives is just another box to tick. Technically difficult no. Letting off the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this very last mental brake in order to pull the trigger, yes that is difficult. Also, unless you actually have a connection, it’s difficult to use the most peaceful method (deadly drugs) The existence of a mind and body makes one depended on happiness and pleasure it is not like they have a choice they NEED something to be pleasent they NEED something to not cause pain and all of this results in a constant loop of chase and loose Its not like they are living because it is pleasent its just they are not dying because it is painful and the possibility of making their existence even more painful
This is no longer a joke but a serious concern with the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this constantly growing number of suicides and cases of severe depression No because they were born with a survival instinct and unaliving themselves causes suffering and harm towards themselves and people around them. Anti-natalists believe that bringing new people into the world is wrong. They don’t think everyone currently alive should be killed or that you should kill yourself. There are lots of reasons those two things are very different. Yes, I know; and that’s also logically inconsistent. Anti-natalist clearly see a value in their own lives, even if they won’t admit it. If their own lives have value to them, then others lives are also valued, even those not yet alive. Anti-natalism is just depression and self-loathing masquerading as philosophy.
Value in their own lives based on what? Most AN people don’t because of the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this 1.)risks associated with suicide. I’d rather live my life and have it end on my own terms, but that doesn’t mean I’m willing to risk getting brain damage or permanent pain. or 2.)They aren’t depressed, but understand that the position of AN would prefer to not gamble new lives to prevent more of those around them from suffering. Appealing to emotion and using ad hominems only solidifies AN peoples perspective. AN introduces the premise that procreation is wrong. Nothing else. They don’t want to take any action on their own feelings of worthlessness (that’s fine, they shouldn’t), but they want to prevent other people from existing based on their own predispositions. Anti-natalists do not think they are worthless. They just think that suffering is an integral part of existence and new beings should not be subjected to that risk. They argue that if you are never born, you will never feel the lack of potential happiness. On the other hand, once you are born, you will definitely feel some level of pain and suffering. For some more, for some less. Anti-natalists just argue that the reward of potential happiness is not worth the certitude of pain and suffering.
To counter the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this “haha then why dont you kill urself, gotcha” argument, well a lot of people find death terrifying, a lot of people find life terrifying, so, as to not subject anyone without their consent to those fears, they simple dont make them exist. Thats it really. Their position is to reduce suffering. By unaliving themselves they cause suffering to themselves and their family and friends. It’s the difference between opt-in and opt-out. If, say, getting punched in the face was opt-out, I’d be pretty annoyed that getting punched in the face was the default even though I can choose not to. Humans are wired to be afraid of painful death. If there is a button that I could press and immediately disappear, I will in an instant.
Very much unavailable in many parts of the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this world plus you need to be extremely ill, anything actually accessible for everyone? The only other methods I can think of would be painful but if I had to pick one I think a bullet to the brain would probably hurt less than suffocating or slitting your wrists. And yes I do realize that not everyone can get a gun Bullets to the brain need to enter right, or they get stuck and you survive with brain damage. Even outside of that, we’re painfully resilient. People have survived falling out of airplanes. This entire exercise is just to say that antinatalists that are still here (and suicidal people) may very well want to get out, they need to fight millennia of evolution that fight against it and a society that doesn’t want you to die on your own terms. Most people don’t realize this and just go “hurr durr die then lol” without understanding how fucking difficult it is.
That’s such a terrible argument. There is a ton of shit imposed on us that we don’t consent to. Consent is important for like, sex, and medical treatments, but most shit is imposed without consent. Consent is not actually super important in a lot of areas of life. This! My condo is surrounded by halls and floors of other tenants. I do not need to consent to them living in my proximity; that would be absurd. We are surrounded by conditions every day that we would probably LOVE to yell ‘I don’t consent’ at just because they’re inconvenient, but we would be infringing on others’ rights and being ridiculous. Most anti-natalists do not protest the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this existence of human being currently alive. They encourage people to not reproduce so as to drastically reduce the population on Earth. These two arguments are very different and the latter is actually pretty true: earth absolutely does not have the ressources to support the current use we make of them, let alone the consumption we would have if the global population increased.
False. Your life wouldn’t have been better, it wouldn’t be at all. We can’t comprehend non-existence but that’s what you’d get without life. I stumbled across the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this antinatalism subreddit the other day, and two things I noticed were that people tended to unfairly blame parents for everything (one person posted a thread saying that they have no empathy for anyone struggling if they had kids, which is fucking stupid) and their arguments go from “parents shouldn’t have kids because the world is awful” to “no one should be alive” to “I wish my parents didn’t have me” to “I wish I was dead”. Antinatalism seems to stem from some personal issues that are linked to suicidal ideation. It’s not a logical philosophy, but rather a call for human extinction brought on by self-hatred.
The sub was quite divided on this. So much so that few years ago it splitted into r/antinatalism2, which bans trash talking and slurs against parents and kids, among other changes, and focus more on the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this philosophical point of view. In its core the question is whether reproduction is moral. The r/antinatalism sub has become a cesspool of simply hateful and bitter people in recent times, its not really about antinatalism anymore. Its just an unmoderated hate bubble with a bunch of trolls from outside aswell, and its why i left it. I think most of the reasonable members went to r/antinatalism2. Dont really follow it anymore. I swear that place is one step removed from being a pro eugenics subreddit. A while ago, I once had anti natalism ideas so I hopped over to that subreddit and was greeted with a thread of someone saying that people who don’t abort babies with down syndrome were evil. I noped out of that subreddit quickly and abandoned all notions of anti natalism shortly after. No clue how i got there, asked what was that place about because their ideas were completely new to me, got downvoted, left. Imbeciles🤷♂️
a subreddit isn’t a good place to judge the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this academic merits of a school of thought. antinatalism is argued for by extremely competent and educated philosophers. Yall have no appreciation for jack. Yes, theres plenty of things wrong with the world, and yes, that sucks, and yes we should be doing everything we can to fix it. But when you consider that human civilization started in caves and so many common things were deadly, and when you consider that fact that I’m communicating to you from across the world on a magical screen, i think youll appreciate the beauty of life some more. Yes, life is a “fatal illness”, but thats an extremely reductionist argument that means nothing by taking away so much context and refusing to acknowledge all of the things that come with it.
No, you did not consent to be born, but you consented to be miserable and refuse to do anything to improve your situation and the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this world. Look I get antinatalism, there’s a lot going on in the world to have second thoughts about bringing another life in the world that’s most likely gonna get a lot harder (if you ain’t rich) before it gets better. I’m never going to have kids, I’m just not made to have them, mentally, financially, but I wouldn’t want to waste hours of my days picketing my message, I’ll just travel, and enjoy my life, or try to at least. Then you’d also know about the stringent rules surrounding these decisions right? It’s much easier to suicide at home than to move there for it.
Maybe you should do some research because that’s not how it works at all. You can’t just walk into a clinic and say “one suicide please!”. do they cater to non citizens? I mean, Ive been wandering the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this wobbly stool isle at home depot for hours and this sounds like a way nicer way to go It hurts my heart when people commit suicide but it’s their life and if they can’t handle the struggle it’s their decision. This could probably resolve a ton of issues. It’s just a bandaid but again it’s not my decision to make. I’ve lived a life of pain and suffering but I still wake up every morning thinking thank god I get to spend another day. It’s sad and kinda disgusting that you would want to put someone through that. Taking another life is not an easy decision, one that most people can’t get over even if justified. Forcing someone to do this is even worse and can haunt those affected for the remainder of their life. I believe there is a special place in hell for those who do this. My brother encountered a suicide by cop a few years back and it’s haunted him since. The purp went at him and his partner with a weapon that turned out to be unloaded with an empty magazine. With constant calls for help in their social media, etc. I mean Ive got a gun if things came right down to it. Would probably do it outside, wouldnt want to risk hitting my neighbors. Ive cleaned up suicides and dealt with them, so you’ll have to forgive me for being a little desensitized to them in general. Well if that is what you choose again it’s your life. I would advise going deep into the woods, let nature do the cleanup. Give back to something.
Lack of genuine conviction; because they know, despite their rhetoric, that life can be something other than suffering. To counter the Naz Reid and Jaylen Clark Timberwolves tattoos at Beloved Studios shirt But I will love this “haha then why dont you kill urself, gotcha” argument, well a lot of people find death terrifying, a lot of people find life terrifying, so, as to not subject anyone without their consent to those fears, they simple dont make them exist. Thats it really. Anti natalist here. I also like my life, but that is because it is subjective. Just because MY life is good, doesnt mean I cannot see how life in this society is OBJECTIVELY bad. You are born into a world were you spend your childhood at school and then your entire adulthood at work. Life itself is wonderful, but its the society we have created, the people at the top who dont help those at the bottom who make it horrible.
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