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Being poor in any big city is always easier, no matter the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this country. Don’t need to rely on a car, more walkability means less public transport reliance, better flat-sharing options, more grocery options, better job prospects, more things to do for free, etc. Ehh. You can buy a house (and a new build one at that) in parts of Lancashire as a single person on a band 3 NHS admin salary (£24,000 per year). I mean if you’re living off Universal Credit, ESA or the state pension on its own you’re going to have a bad time anywhere. But you’ll get your rent paid so naff all money but free rent in London is going to be better than in Easington. The pretty harsh levels of inequality and social segregation in Zones 1-3 provide for a pretty horrible childhood experience for many kids raised here
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While there clearly is more of a financial gap today between the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this owner occupiers who have home equity worth in the £X000,000s or £m’s and those with social housing but they have capped low rents so will never move on or could even potentially buy at a discount. The problem is it squeezes our those in the middle, too fortunate for social housing but struggling to buy a house or good sized flat as they aren’t in the top few % of earners. Unfortunately this is now a problem in London way beyond Z1-3, in fact in many areas in Z4/5/6 and towns across the home counties, with many people stuck in the Catch 22 in places they lived for much of their lives, so the remaining solution rent at great cost and with low security …
Also even if the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this ownership circumstances are very different in Z1-3 are very different, everyone lives in close proximity, and usually that includes transport links and opportunities. Whereas in the estates like Thamesmead or Graham Park further out with poor transport links, they are the places where it is harder to escape from (both metaphorically & physically). I am unable to fit more than 12 renters per room in the house me and my uncles own in Seven Sisters. And apparently they need light? Why is this if they are paying me to sleep? I feel like you have to have money to really appreciate this though, and the city does a great job of snatching that money away Yeah, bollocks. There are so many amazing restaurants for whatever niche food you want, you just have to find where that diaspora mainly lives Okay I was more referring to how some people can’t even pay rent let alone eat out due to the extortionate cost of rent. London isn’t Tokyo where you can get an incredible meal for £5, eating out is a luxury not many can afford right now. I dunno, I come from a very rural part of the country and I lived in bham for a while. I eat at amazing places in London and loads of them don’t break the bank. My favourite restaurant is actually one of the cheapest (it’s Indian and you can get that all over the country but still) Everyone in London is getting old and new young people can’t afford to move in. This will lead to a slow decline of London.
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What happens is young people in their 20s still live and party in London, then move away when they can’t afford a house when they want to buy a house and have kids in their 30s. So the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this generation London loses us actually 30 – 45 ish. Same is happening in other unaffordable cities, like Sydney and Vancouver for example. No one really likes St John’s as much as they say, they just pretend they do because Anthony Bourdain used to wax poetically about his love for the restaurant. I’d say it’s super variable – some stuff is absolutely killer, some less so. They have not changed their style of cooking that much since the 90s – food here in general has moved on since then. I used to work in Westminster and there was a black taxi protest. They blocked off the whole area with their cars, and it was lovely. The fact that parliament square is a roundabout is just stupid. Pedestrianise zone one.
Same when extinction rebellion blocked Oxford street with that pink boat. Massively improved the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this area for a time. Camden is good. Yes, it has changed, but it was always a bit naff and for all of its faults it is a) one of the few neighbourhoods with a decent concentration of pubs and bars that are open late most days (other places might be OK on the weekend, but sometimes you want to stay out until 2 on a Wednesday) and b) still relatively friendly to groups of young’uns who need somewhere fun to hangout with their mates. Canary Wharf is good too. I’m not mad about every aspect of it, but when I see the DLR trains trundling past all the skyscrapers it’s a reminder of what we could have if we were actually friendly to infrastructure and development in this country. I have relatives from overseas and they always love going out in Camden. They have been going for years and have seen it change but it’s still near the top of their to do list.
A wander around, drink in the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this sights and smells, a spot of shopping and then a few pubs, ideally find one with food and music. They love it. 50 years from now, Croydon will be considered “central” and we’ll be decrying the displacement of multigenerational residents of Slough. Depends on the kind I think. Like some places become gentrified and are really dull and nothing is then but shitty chains. River cruise charging 12 quids for 10 mins is a scam, tower bridge and Churchill museum should not charge tourists. Buckingham palace is over hyped The bars and pubs are mostly all shit – takes 10 minutes to get a drink on any remotely busy night. Roster more staff for ffs The people that live outside London often complain out the rent, then you find out they spend £600 a month on running a car I heard someone at work complaining about rent and it turns out they’d been slathering themselves in exotic avocado paste in some sort of pagan breeding ceremony £600 p/m would be a very nice car, you can buy a banger for £4-5k (or less) then run it for a few years, hoping service costs are a few hundred per year.
The running costs & fuel assuming they work not too far away likely balance out with the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this cost of oyster fares a Londoner would face, most people outside of London take public transport a few times a year at most or never … It’s not that expensive If you’re young and just renting a room/not prioritising saving, and looking to live your life for a couple of years – there’s so much free stuff to do. those who think you need a crazy wage to enjoy the city are talking about a certain lifestyle that you don’t actually have to aspire to if you wanna have a good time. Might be obvious to people who frequently visit/live here, but from online comments, it does not seem like its currently the consensus.
City gets more boring by the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this day and everything shuts too early. Couldn’t even imagine living anywhere else in the UK though People who complain about noise from nightlife are destroying the city and should move out to the countryside where they’ll be a lot happier. People on the outskirts of Merton with SM postcodes, often claim to be London, as do people from around Enfield with an EN postcode. We’ve let too many people migrate to London specifically; and we shouldn’t be forcing born and bred Londoners out to cater to the wealthy instead of aiding the communities already here being erased by extreme gentrification which is actually just social cleansing. Until we build council housing to the extent that’s needed, which means building up, we’re just increasing inequality and furthering a return to feudalism. No city should be a city just for the rich. The UK decided a long time ago that it wanted to kill off it’s industries in favour of services like financial institutions in the city of London. These require big brains people who require big money. It’s one of the biggest sources of income for the country so yeah a bit of social cleansing to give them workers better places to live and an easier commute is a small sacrifice for the city. Plus the communities they’re displacing have all just been there a couple of generations, it ain’t some sorta indigenous population getting displaced or anything. Besides how many of those cockneys got their council flat for 6k then sold it for 400k? They’re doing fine and living further out.
If you want to have the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this reduction in inequality and council housing on the scale that’ll do something meaningful you’ll need a whole new economic plan for the country, good luck finding one that’s actually actionable or will be allowed to happen. It has the best food in the world and the people who live here are extremely ungrateful because they haven’t lived elsewhere long enough to experience what it really feels like to have no real variety and even if there was, the quality would be crap. Lost its community vibe, too many people not from London. It’s always had a steady flow but recently it’s really noticeable. It’s a hotel, not a city. People come here to make money and leave to raise families elsewhere. Economic immigration from inside the UK at first was feeding the culture, now has drowned what was once one of the most exciting cultural cities in the world to a place full of leeches.
Wankers that got rich here but aren’t from here, moving next to nightclub in Hackney then force the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this council to shut it down are just leeches. Too expensive for many young people to live here, meaning those that come are almost entirely middle class boring cock sleaves that offer nothing and just drive housing cost up further and driving out the London born working class. To feed the money machine, a lot of the property is owned by foreign investment funds in dodgy parts of the world. Also leeches. As a single 20-year-old woman, I studied in London and lived alone and did almost everything by myself, often walking home alone at night. Nobody ever sexually harassed, assaulted, or threatened me.
I never even worried about it. I realize now, over ten years later, that I was incredibly naive to not be more cautious or aware of my surroundings, but I’m amazed by how safe I felt during that time. Many Victorian houses in London are borderline unfit for habitation and should be knocked down and replaced by 4-storey blocks of flats. There’s also lots of pointless car parks that need to go. Lots of older buildings in zone 3 and 4 high streets should be demolished and replaced with mixed use blocks. These places are home to dodgy ‘churches’ and the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this like so there’s nothing of value lost. Rapid migration is the main factor eroding manners and etiquette on the tube. The amount of people trying to push on before people have gotten off is crazy. London is a sleepy unexciting collection of villages compared with other cities places of similar stature – New York, Paris, Singapore, Hong Kong, Tokyo.
How are you defining “exciting” ? If you’re talking about nightlife, then yes, of course cities like HK and NY are more concentrated so have a busier feel at night. It’s not as exciting for nightlife. Yeah night life but also the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this general lack of spontaneity, convenience and the ‘buzz’ – things close early; city is spread out; you always have to book months in advance for any nice restaurant; traffic is particularly bad from one part of London to another – crawling at 5mph in centuries old roads; people trying to catch the last train home; shops closing at 5pm or even 4 on Sundays… things are simply too spread out for you to feel like you’re living in a city thank you! I just want to read a book with a coffee at 9pm but the places open are sports bars. everything closes so early that it feels like a ghost town after 6pm. When people think of money laundering, criminal kingpins, and a captured economy that serves an oligarchy while taking advantage of the poor, a lot of times they think of 3rd world countries like Mexico.
But if you learn how the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this City works, and you read about the Libor scandal, and you see who can afford £150M homes in London, you realize that London is the actual capital of crime. I honestly think we should revert to the 1965 boundaries or give greater London ‘proper’ London postcodes. If you live in greater London the identity crisis is real. I work just around the corner and I kept waiting for them to finish the top. I was outraged when I realised that was it I wanted to downvote you because I was so outraged. Then I remembered this is an unpopular opinions thread. Then I saw someone else had downvoted you so I upvoted you. But I could not disagree more! Living in it is really not that great and other parts of the country are just as good or better. Cheaper, quieter, less air, noise and light pollution, just an all round better quality of life than living in London. None of have to be here. We can leave. But we tolerate the high prices, social altruism and toxic air because we want to feel important. The high cost of living in London is basically a tax on ambition London is being rapidly replaced by way too many people who don’t have any ties to the city, and who therefore don’t care to contribute to the city’s culture. The people born and raised in London are taking the city’s essence with them when they move out. The city has become unbalanced. Londoners think being “antisocial Londoner” is their personality type – when actually making eye contact and talking to strangers can be really nice. I have lived here for 5 years, and had never made any friends. BUT I got a dog 6 months ago and have made more friends and talked to more people than I had in the past 5 years, and (Londoners hate this) actually talking to people and being friendly has done wonders for my mental health and comfort living here. But no, carry on with “don’t make eye contact” being your entire personality.
There’s no heart to London, literally and figuratively. Well, it is a collection of villages. But European cities usually have a heart. London just doesn’t. It may have a buzz but no heart 🙁 This is going to get downvoted to hell, but as an unpopular opinion… London is a relatively cheap city to live in. In comparison to other ‘capital’ cities ie Sydney, NYC, Geneva etc, it’s comparatively cheap. People can be unnecessarily cold. Having lived here for several years I still smile at strangers and try and add some warmth That chicken shop chicken actually isn’t nice and most of it is really hygienic. Also way overpriced now , at least it used to be worth it when it was really cheap. It’s disgracefully overpopulated. Can’t just walk into places anymore and get a table or be seated within a reasonable time. London is just rammed with people nowadays It is not very green. I’m not talking about dedicated green spaces, e.g. parks. It is rare to see trees along the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this streets, especially in the centre. Parks are so much better than trees overall. I lived in Shanghai which had trees on every street and it looked great but having the option to chill in a green area was so much better than trees on a high street. They are not mutually exclusive. Having both would be better. Areas like parts of Ealing or Richmond are delightful because they have both.
I think when someone says “I’m going to London”, I don’t really consider places like Ilford or Hounslow as where they’d be visiting. I never really considered Greater London as London. I live in Harrow myself. Same here. Zone 4 to the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this east. I work from home 50%ish of the time and the conversation with colleagues, friends, and family on my whereabouts for any given working day goes “Are you in London on that day?” despite living inside the M25 and in a London borough.vThe stabby people help keep the rifraff out. The food scene is the most diverse of anywhere I’ve lived, but as London slowly gentrifies its “central” areas, restaurants get further and further apart as restaurant owners and staff are pushed out. All that survives is the chains. Hence why I’d say Leeds or Manchester have a more enjoyable food scene now purely because of accessibility. It’s vastly underdeveloped and more towers out of scale with the area should be built by private developers selling them at market rate.
Cons: expensive, dirty, overcrowded, loud and hot as f***, small carts on most lines, small platforms and accessibility issues on many stations Yes, I know it was the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this first metro ever. That’s exactly what makes it so ridiculously bad compared to more modern ones. And I know that some lines are less bad (like district or circle) but they’re still far from amazing and if you remove all the bad lines then you lose the only pro, which is network extensivness. That London is truly the greatest city in the world and has not lost that moniker over the last years and decades. It’s still great just like it was in the past. As good as a Londoner thinks a particular restaurant is, it’s still probably shit and overpriced as Londoners grow up eating terribly, eg Greggs to instagram restaurants, to truffles on everything = good food? The irony of this being that as a gay man, 90% of the sexual assaults I have endured in gay venues in London have been committed by drunk straight women. Way too many economically unproductive and problematic people living in social housing in some of London’s best areas (zones 1 and 2). It’s very unfair when young professionals are struggling to even rent in zone 4, let alone buy a property. It’s a privilege to be living in Notting Hill or Kensington, and hard working families (professional or not) that can’t afford anything should be living in these homes, not unemployed people that barely contribute and often weren’t born in the UK. You’re only a Londoner if you’re born and bred in London. Too many middle class foreigners or Monties and Lotties from the Home Counties claiming to be Londoners when they have lived here for 2 years.
Living in London without a car is pretty shit. With all the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this train strikes it’s easy to feel trapped when making plans outside the city, particularly in rural areas. It’s dirtier than Paris, at least in the last few years. Overflowing bins with bin bags stacked next to them, litter lining gutters, half eaten takeaways or vomit on the pavement. Also a weird amount of half empty bottles or cans just stacked against the side of buildings. Usually cans of lager in hackney, but I did genuinely see an abandoned bottle of bolly outside a mechanic in Fulham a couple of weeks ago. this is a very specific thing but is it a controversial take to say that kingston town centre – which is typically regarded as one of the “safe” and “posh” and “middle class” parts of london – is honestly pretty unpleasant to be in at times idk if id say i feel unsafe there, exactly, but as the “big” and trendy” shopping area in outer SW london it tends to attract loads of teens from the home counties who behave absolutely abhorrently (harassing random strangers by throwing pebbles at them, causing chaos in random shops, sexually harassing women, generally just….. acting like twats, etc). it intensifies at weekends due to pryzm. also eden street always feels sketchy af in the evening
Transport doesn’t work, people are lazy and keep striking, Criminals and mugging everywhere, Goopy gravy-laden food sucks, The smell of urine is everywhere. Tagging and graffiti on public transport is a brilliant way to add colour to the Modest Mouse Jun 23 On Tour 2025 Val Air Ballroom West Des Moines IA Shirt but I will buy this shirt and I will love this otherwise drab world of London, haters are just closet-tories But tags affiliated with pathetic murderers marking an area as theirs akin to a pre neutered hound pissing everywhere has no place in society. Despite its issues it’s still the best city in the world and the culmination of all the best aspects of British culture and society. Private members clubs are where some of the best professional connections are made in London, if you are part of one you can accelerate or switch your career with FAR more ease than otherwise just by conversing and unwinding there a few days a week. Inevitably an opportunity will arise. Not sure if it’s unpopular but London nightlife just isn’t that great. I thought it was when I was when I was 18 but after seeing it in other places such as Seoul I find it quite boring now? Maybe a personal problem though. They’re not more entitled than anyone else but they certainly act like it. They’re not big deals when it’s the largest populated city in England No one should be allowed to have a garden larger than two parking spaces if you ask me. London doesn’t have a particularly high urban density and it’s partially because of this.
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| L | 3076 | 2256 |
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| L | 2974 | 2461 | 36.593 |
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| 4XL | 3384 | 3281 | 39.5100 |
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