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Unvaccinated kids shouldn’t be allowed in public schools. If parents want to be that anti vaxx have them be homeschooled As a parent, i would like to be informed if a kid in my child’s class is unvaccinated by choice (not because of health issue preventing vaccine use) — don’t have to say which kid by name, but just that 1 exists. If we gave parents info like this, then you’d see most parents take action. I agree. I also very strongly agree that the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this child shouldn’t be named; especially in elementary school, it’s not the child’s choice they aren’t vaccinated for preventable diseases. That’s on the parents. It’s up to them to make smart choices for children, especially elementary-age kids. The only thing you know at that age is that you’re being singled out and labeled as “different”. That’s counterproductive to changing the parents’ minds but also potentially the kid as they grow up.
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However, right now if a child in my child’s school is diagnosed with a communicable disease, i already receive communication from the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this school that sounds like “1 child has X disease in your child’s class” with phone numbers and direction on how parents can/should respond. I’m only suggesting taking that already present communication to “1 child in your child’s class is not vaccinated for X disease”. My daughter’s public school won’t tell us about an outbreak of anything until four or more children in the same class become sick with it. I think that’s unreasonable with diseases such as measles and chicken pox and whatnot. Also, the term developing and developed country are largely unused now. The more current terminology is low income. In large part this is because there are very few countries left that fit the “developing” box anymore. Certainly there are countries like Somalia and Sierre-Leon that are still overwhelmingly on a sustenance lifecycle, but literally almost all of the world now has access to some level of first line health care and electricity. Absolutely there is still immense room for growth, but the progress that has been made is amazing and except in a select few places, measles outbreaks are a failure of public planning. I also very strongly agree that the child shouldn’t be named; especially in elementary school, it’s not the child’s choice they aren’t vaccinated for preventable diseases.
One kid with covid coming your your kid’s birthday party while you have an infant at home who isn’t old enough to be vaccinated yet will change your mind. Name and shame the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this parents. My state just requires checking a box. Nothing additional needed. If we couldn’t enforce covid vaccines during a major pandemic, we’re not magically going to do it for measles. Best you can do is protect yourself and your family. After Wakefields bunk study, pressure was placed for exemptions. Covid then motivated several states to loosen the exemptions even further. On the brightside, the measles vaccination effectiveness is about 97%. In addition, reinfection is highly unlikely. So if others want to take the risk, it’s mostly on them. Unfortunately the vaccine doesn’t fully seroconvert in everyone though. There are actually a lot of millennials who are immune to the Mumps/Rubella parts of the MMR vaccine but not measles. ( Ask me how I know!)
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Its also highly contagious. Moreso than some of the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this covid variants. If it takes off in a community it could really take off. It also has some uncomfy side effects as an infection. Assume one in every single class tbh. Besides if it’s measles one in the school is enough, and the vaccine isn’t 100% so vaccinated kids are going to show symptoms at least some of the time. This is really really bad. If the child isn’t named and they just say 2 children in your child’s grade level are not vaccinated by choice and another for health issues, what would you do? I would go through the PTA or other parent’s group to make sure as many parents as possible knew all the facts about vaccines and how they work and why they are so important. try to increase people’s awareness about what’s going on. Try to actually help people. Talk to people. It works.
No it doesn’t. Those people have already demonstrated that they are unpersuadable by such silly things as evidence, facts, and logic. Just seems like common sense to me. Plenty of jobs and such require certification, vaccines, and other safety precautions. I can’t see why school is any different, especially since people tend to dislike having dead kids even more than dead adults, usually. Kinda nuts measles is making a comeback, reminds me of all that “Never again” talk after WWII. Sadly once a few generations pass it seems most of those hard learned lessons are forgotten and without serious generational trauma and such we’re doomed to repeat our failures. We barely bat an eye at kids getting massacred at school at a considerable frequency. Look at how many kids died of covid or its complications in the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this last few years. Measles isn’t reinfectious, on top of vaccination rates still being decently high. It should be a wake up call, but covid should’ve been a wake up call as well. Florida; where vaccines are a felony, scientists are given life sentences with no parole for saying ‘climate change,’ and guns have more freedumb than women.
This school has a vax rate of 89% according to the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this article. Iirc it needs to be about 95% to stop the spread of measles because it’s so contagious. They usually aren’t, however that “religious medical exception” loop hole still exists. Parents were using it when I was in high school back in the mid 00s Its use exploded for teachers/students, medical personnel, & military members during COVID. All people that required vaccinations before, but it was no problem. For some reason. Since when were they not? I thought the only exceptions were medical (aka if it will kill the kid to get the vaccine) or religious. Just do what social security does and say that your religion has to have believed in it since before x year in the early 1900s in order to opt out and make the religious leader certify active membership. Then you can’t just claim religious when it’s not religious.
A number of places don’t define religious, for good reasons around not wanting to judge one persons religion as more legit than another’s. Also some states provide a “personal belief” exemption that doesn’t require religious reasoning. Again, not giving religious people options non religions people don’t have seems reasonable, until it isn’t. I’m a teacher, and a mother, and yes. I agree 1000%. Unvaccinated children do not belong in public school, and parents who want to risk the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this health and safety of their children should do so within their own societal structures, not the mainstream public. Here in Canada they’re not. They suspend kids when they don’t get vaccinated. I feel so bad for the kids, honestly. Especially if they’re like in Kindergarten. They don’t understand why they can’t go back to school. They just wanna go play with their friends and have a good day, but gotta get taken out of school because daddy and mommy dipshit won’t get them the shots they need to keep them from getting severely ill. Becoming a parent has really opened my eyes to how awful some children really have it and it breaks my damn heart.
I have to think these parents willingly send their disease-ridden kids to schools anyway to infect other kids and make those other families miserable. I’d go a step further and suggest that Medicaid/state health insurance programs, e.g. CHIP, shouldn’t extend coverage to any unvaccinated child who doesn’t have a valid medical exemption. Because if a kid is low income enough to qualify for Medicaid, it’s not like the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this family is going to just buy private insurance. How ’bout this instead?: If the kid’s birth was covered by Medicaid and he/she doesn’t receive his/her scheduled vaccinations by their first birthday, the State retroactively bills the parents the cost of the prenatal visits and childbirth (which can be many thousands of dollars). That way the kid isn’t denied healthcare, but the parents face a hefty penalty if they don’t vaccinate.
As a former teacher and being immunocompromised, I agree. The last time I got a basic flu it sent me to the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this ICU for 3 days I’m good with kids going to school if they have a legit medical exception. There shouldn’t be any other exception allowed. Then again, I also think not vaccinating your kid is child abuse, so my opinion is a bit on the extreme side. Homeschooling should be illegal and vaccines should be compulsory except for legitimate health reasons and doctors who falsify excuse letters should lose their licenses. Doesn’t really solve the problem. They’ll still have social lives and friends. They’ll just spread it to slightly less people It works really well as leverage to tell people that they must vaccinate if they want to put their kids in public schools. Most people will just whine about it as they go down to their pediatrician or public health clinic and fulfill the requirement. Some will start looking for private school options (in my area private schools have stronger vaccination mandates) and a very small number will homeschool. I worked at a residential treatment center that required vaccines. We had one student who was ardently anti vax and his mom wouldn’t sign the consent form for the shot. Until we asked when she was picking him up from the airport. She was confused until we told her he was on his way home because he had to be vaccinated. She gave verbal consent right then lol.
Unless it is based on a serious life threatening medical condition and documented by an affidavit – The answer to “we don’t vaccinate” needs to be “Then you need to leave.” Not just measles. Read a post by a grown man who caught whooping cough from an unvaccinated kid. Coughed so hard he broke ribs and tore abdominal muscles. I guess some parents want to go back to a time when you spent days listening to a child literally cough themselves to death. Pertussis immunization does not confer lifelong immunity. Just adding that info to explain why an adult could have caught it from a child. Poor kids. Parents are the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this dumbest among us. They want to talk about lgbt being a mental issue but are literally killing their off spring because they barely graduated high school, in a system built to pass all, and they somehow think they are smarter than doctors, researchers, scientist, etc. what we need to criminalize here us child neglect. All the information and resources to keep them safe is readily available.
See meme of what I think I do. What I really do etc. look Florida treated me right. Im coming back. People are idiots. I’ve always said I’m dumb not stupid. But not vaxing your kids is dumb as hell. My partner’s step-dad just had to deal with having RUBELLA. He has a severely weakened immune system due to some other health issues and we think that he probably got it because of that…. but like…. dude…. rubella. That shouldn’t even be a thing anymore but here we are. Rubella. Clearly, we are in the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this age where people need to be reminded of the horrors that can come from these diseases. Too many people have forgotten. It’s a shame that the ones who need to learn won’t, and it’ll only change by the hands of those who were put at risk. I used to agree with you. But then we had a whole freaking pandemic that killed millions and that just made people more anti vax.
The pandemic didn’t make people anti-vax. It was the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this former president who promoted anti-vax alternatives and no-masking and distrust of science and health care professionals. Thank you. You had expressed this exactly the way I wanted to but in a more eloquent way. My original (I ended up deleting it) was much more crude. 7-10 per 100k approx 7 years after infection, up to 18 per 100k for children under two, will die of an incurable neurological disorder, SSPE. I’ve already seen one other moron in this very thread proudly proclaiming that because the modern era death rate is lower, it is not a big deal. I’d like to see them have that same attitude if it was them dying from it. Too many people shove their head in the sand and choose to ignore reality until it impacts them.
Right? So what they’re really saying is as long as it’s someone else’s kid that dies, the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this death rate is acceptable. What if you’re the one with the lottery ticket that hits? My son is one of 1 in 2 million that had a brain tumor. If I could have prevented that with a vaccine? I could not live with myself if I could have prevented it and didn’t. It’s like covid or other diseases in recent years. For some reason they started to be fine with them just because the death rate is low, be it because of political views or whatever. How many of these antivaxxers were themselves vaccinated decades ago? Do they have that same mindset with plane crashes, flooding because a dam failed, or any other thing that is preventable to some degree? Like, should we stop trying to improve safety when it comes to air travel because we might “only” have one or two plane crashes that have 500 people onboard and no survivors per year because it is an acceptable death rate? I’m sure a large percentage of antivaxxers are the same people that don’t want more safety regulations for things simply because it doesn’t seem like a lot of accidents/deaths happen in those areas. These same people should consider why the death rate for risky activities has lowered over the decades/centuries.
I’d consider refusing to vaccinate your child negligence. I’d consider any school liable for admitting unvaccinated students (it’s not necessarily their fault, but it would definitely get schools to go after the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this politicians) if my child caught a preventable disease. If only there was a cheep effective way to prevent this…and one with very little side effect that has worked on generations, with oodles of research that’s been peer reviewed! And it literally is all his fault. The vaccine scare was basically completely non-existent before him, then he fakes a study and now every anti-vaccine group can be traced back to him. Guy created a thought virus, unleashed it onto a suspectible population, and then for decades watched a grim harvest unfold. But I bet he thinks himself a good person.
I just read A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, and there is a scene where she talks about having to get vaccines done before she attends school. She talks about the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this anti-vaxers of the time, people who wept and carried on with dramatic fervor because their children had to get a polio vaccine or they wouldn’t be allowed to attend school. This book was published in 1946. They’ve been around for a long time. a reminder that if you plan to become pregnant, please get a rubella vaccination for the baby’s sake. Contracting rubella during pregnancy will most likely have devastating effects. On that note, my doctor said I should get a whooping cough vaccine, because that’s going around. She didn’t mince words—just came out and said it’s because people aren’t vaccinating their kids. So that’s something else to worry about. It’s the TDAP vaccine. My SO likely had whooping cough and you don’t want it. We don’t know for sure because we couldn’t get any provider to test for pertussis, but the cough was terrible and lasted for months.
Back in summer 2019 I was working at a children’s theater camp that very obviously had a lot of wealthy crunchy parents, went to my doctor the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this first weekend and reupped both my TDAP and MMR because it was cheaper to get a booster of the vaccines than have them run my titers to see if I was still immune. So glad I did. Maurice Hilleman rolling in his grave, remembering all the kids who had to die and be tortured before vaccines were discovered. And then just to end up here again torturing and sickening kids? Why? To double down on ignorance rather than appreciate the world with curiosity and humility is senseless but humans are a determined species. As determined as one scientist may be that no kid should die of a curable, preventative disease, one ill-informed and proud parent can undo all good with their hubris and ego so much as to cause the sickness and death of many more who could have been saved. Senseless, that describes this behavior perfectly.
You want to know who the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this worst group of people are right now? Those bitches. The only “accomplishment” they’ve had is spreading their legs and having someone impregnate them. And yet, somehow, they think that makes them the authority on science and medicine. Blows my mind. I am a woman and a scientist and honestly, I find those people dangerously entitled and confident in their own ignorance. Not really Broward has been strongly blue for a long time. You could’ve said nearly any other county and you would’ve been right. Measles complications also (rarely tho) kill you years later too. These kids might not even realize that they have a biological time bomb ticking away inside of them. From Google / The CDC: “Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) is a very rare, but fatal disease of the central nervous system that results from a measles virus infection acquired earlier in life. SSPE generally develops 7 to 10 years after a person has measles, even though the person seems to have fully recovered from the illness.” When I was a kid in the 80s, the anti-vax movement didn’t really exist (to my knowledge). I thought the internet would bring about an end to disinformation, but in fact the exact opposite has occurred. Andrew Wakefield started it in 1998. He didn’t believe it. It was a money-making scam. He lost his medical license. Well, this is opening children up to a whole host of diseases. Good luck protecting your children Florida, from diseases they no longer have an immunity against because you let them contract measles.
As a side note/PSA, I’m in my 30s and was curious of my blood titers for various vaccines I’ve received as a baby… my measles one actually was slightly lower so I recently got a booster for MMR! Another friend of mine also found out his measles antibodies were slightly lower so he also re-upped that shot. With all these stupid unvaccinated people around spreading measles again, definitely get those titers checked!! They did a full panel so I’m able to see the Love Them First Teach Them Second Inspirational Teacher Life Shirt Additionally,I will love this antibodies available for each (e.g. HPV, chicken pox, etc.). Gee, who’d have thought that a state with a Governor and a Surgeon General who cast doubts on vaccine efficacy would face repercussions? Everyone can relax. The Florida Board of Health, led by their Insane Surgeon General, who thinks diseases are caused by having sex with witches and demons, are on the job. Florida has an anti Vaxxer as their surgeon general. They aren’t serious about the welfare of kids in their state. This is the direct result of them politicizing healthcare and community health. Measles is one of the most communicable diseases in the history of humans.
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